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Yogie Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,608 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#702413
Can anyone tell me if I can fit a non turbo subi engine in to a 72 ghia without having to cut in to the firewall? I don't mind cutting the engine bay area but do not want to go in to the firewall.

Thanks

Yogie

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#702449
Hi Yogie

with an N/A engine theres no cutting to firewall if you get a throttle body inverter or reverse the manifold

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#702452
Paul is doing this as we speek in Perth now , he has one of my adapter plates and fly wheels.
The motor is a STI 2ltr motor running a TD05 turbo with a custom built dragster kombi 2ltr box that I flew in from the USA for him. This machine is going to kick some ass over her in wa with around the 300hp at the rears.

I dont think he is cutting the fire wall even with the turbo motor in the rear
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#702455
ghias just have the same firewall as a bug so it would be the same as a beetle install

Yogie Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,608 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#702469
Thanks guys. I wasn't sure about the room from front to back compared to a beetle. Side to side is lots better. It would be interesting to see photos of what one looks like with an inverter if any one has some. Would also like to see the one you are talking about seagull if you can get some pictures.

Does anyone know if the beetle kafer cup type bars for a beetle fit a ghia?

Cheers

Yogie

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#702476
I doubt very much if you can fit a turbo engine into a Ghia without cutting the firewall unless you did some serious re-working of the turbo setup and induction system..

The EJ 22 with a CVD Invert Manifold will fit into a Ghia without cutting the firewall. You will have to cut the engine sealing tinware but that is about it.

When I was orininally playing with the EJ 22 invert manifold I tried a few different angles and designs to get the best fit. Then I test fitted the engine in everything I could find sitting around. One of those sitting around was a Ghia so I know it fits. In fact that Ghia is still sitting in my backyard.

Anyway it clears in a beetle no stress and same with Ghia, but you do need to cut out the engine bay sealing tinware.



Here you can see it in a beetle, clears easy and fits under the stock engine lid without moving the transmission fwd at all.
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

gaz58t2 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

84 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#702497
Hey Seagull
Is thre going to be a post of the Pauls turbo Ghia build as thinking of doing something similar later this year
Or links to other Ghia EJ20T builds
Cheers gaz

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#702500
I think there is but not on AVD , Pauls coming over this week so I will ask
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Yogie Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,608 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#702519
Thanks for the photo Brad. Is the inverter an off the shelf product or do you get it made to order to suit your installation?

Cheers

Yogie

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#702587
I think someone posted some pics of a Yellow Ghia???
here some where.
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car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#702594
Yogie wrote:Thanks for the photo Brad. Is the inverter an off the shelf product or do you get it made to order to suit your installation?

Cheers

Yogie
Invert Manifold is an off the shelf item sold by Custom Vee Dub - www.customveedub.com.au, it isn't on the website at the moment as Andrew is a slack ass.

Wes was the one posting the Ghia Pictures, Gold Coast VW Show last year maybe, there were some pics in the Manx Club Gallery - www.manxgallery.org under past events 2008
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#702598
Was actually Gold Coast Show 2006.
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

Yogie Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,608 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#702611
Thanks guys. I had seen the photos of the yellow one. While it looks great, it cuts in to the firewall in a big way which is want I want to avoid. It does show the cutting required around the engine itself which is done very well and will be helpful for me if I go down the subi path. There are a couple of other posts about the radiator that help heaps as well.

That yellow car installation is really tidy so that is why I wanted to see if anyone had any photos of the install with an inverted manifold to see if it can look as good.

Cheers

Brett

ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#702758
WOW WOW and FKN WOW!!
There's not too many conversions on the net that impress me with their engineering and neatness, but that one is at the top of the list.
AWESOME!! Well done. I'm inspired.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#702773
Hi

I like the colour and the car, wonder how the A/C goes. Besides black I'm considering the new Suzuki yellow for my new car.

Steve

GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·

#702828
1303Steve wrote:Hi

I like the colour and the car, wonder how the A/C goes. Besides black I'm considering the new Suzuki yellow for my new car.

Steve
Steve glad you asked about the a/c setup cause I was about to as well. Cmon, you can pick something nicer than Suby Yellow!

Who owns this, can we get any details of how a/c is done as I would like to do in the Fasty.
1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#703003
i had a chat with the owner of that KG at the show
he and his son who had a bug there both built to very high standards
what impressed me was all the carbon fibre he put in it

even the door panels 😎

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#703004
ttriebler wrote:WOW WOW and FKN WOW!!
There's not too many conversions on the net that impress me with their engineering and neatness, but that one is at the top of the list.
AWESOME!! Well done. I'm inspired.
if you liked that one you'd love this one then

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aintgotitmusthaveit Officially Full-On Dubber

295 posts · joined Jun 2006 ·

#703045
Amazing
Thought of doing this to the replica but was pretty sure i'd fail the chassis torsion test with no roll cage a a glass body.
A rex struggles as it is to get the power down through 4 driving wheels with a beatifully balanced chassis. I cannot imagine what it would be like in a ghia with all that weight hangin off the back.
Regardless, Very very Nice work

ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#703129
interesting...in that latest pic it looks like the turbo has been moved to the other side of the engine...
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Yogie Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,608 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#703206
That orange one looks awesome. It still cuts the firewall but with the invertor, it would solve that problem. Very professional installation. Only thing is, why does the orange one have only 1 filter on top of the engine and the yellow car have one on top and another on the side?

Yogie

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#703209
Because the yellow one has a top mount and the orange has a front mount. Im such a ricer

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#703211
from memory the orange one was twin turbo

ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#703311
doesn't look twin turbo to me - only 1 intake/filter showing and turbo is much higher than the std twin turbo location.
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trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·

#703337
I'm usually not a yellow fan either but tht colour suits the car 👍

flat_iv Seriously Crusin Dubber

107 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#703556
I have a 74 ghia with a 2.2 engine. No cutting of the firewall. Just rotate the complete intake manifold. Search for pics under my name and you should find.

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#703565
Yogie wrote:Only thing is, why does the orange one have only 1 filter on top of the engine and the yellow car have one on top and another on the side?

Yogie
both have one air filter.........you are mistaking the intercooler ontop of the yellow one for an air filter.........neither have the inverter, orange just has air intake pipe to the turbo that looks a bit like one

looks like single turbo to me Joel?........no wonder youre staying NA 😂(sissy)