Skip to content
Aussieveedubbers

Bad Idea?????? FUEL LINE

0 likes
Share Share on Facebook Share on X Share on Reddit

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#704394
Ok. I Re-did my fuel line today. I used a great see through glass/chrome filter from classicveedub.com.au - Great service / great product. I also used the genuine Fuel line from classic and new clamps from my local auto store (budget auto oxley) They aren't the usual style clip - they are alot stronger and don't crush the fuel line in a bad way (the usual ones tear the rubber/fabric and make it ewwww). It was good to change the line back to what it should be, away from bad all rubber too big crap.

As a result of this, I no longer have a filter in my engine bay (I know there are alot of people celebrating out there)!!! However......



This is what it ended up looking like in the rear section (above the transaxle). Is It possible for the C.V boots to hit the filter? Could I have any issues with this??? The hose doesn't touch the exhaust, so I'm Fine there.... Just wanted to make sure I'm not going to die on the side of the road cause I run out of petrol because my CV boot rips the fuel line and leaks all the petrol on the ground and then the fuel ignites and the car blows up....... (tested by myth busters and wouldn't happen unless you were going slower than 5km/h or something stupid....)



I also have a plastic filter straight after the tank. So don't panic!

1 attachment · Log in to view

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#704405
mate rethink the area where you have it at the moment you can relocate the filter on the passengers side wheel wall there are clips that will let you just clip the filter in they use them to locate pool cues on racks
that fuel line being rubbet through is not the answer but good luck
👍👍😂🙅🥷😬🤓

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#704412
yeah not the best spot old mate..
id move it if it was my ride..
fractal geometry; the inner most limits of mind altering abuse

Fantasy http://seventhchronicle.com

Z = Z2 + C1/r = 1/0 = infinity

Barrels www.barrelman.com.au

VW Workshop - aircooledgarage.com.au
allcooled.com.au

eraser Fahrvergnugen

970 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#704438
did you say glass chrome filter... ewww... and if you have a plastic one why have another?

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#704443
What's wrong with glass??? Move it? Put it at the front?

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#704452
glass shatters
Pay your debts, CxxT

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#704453
Hi

I've heard stories of that type of filter unwinding and leaking.

Steve

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#704459
So move it??? Up front be better??? Do I need to run more than 1 filter???
I really thought I was doing a good thing by getting it out of the engine bay.... 🙁

jedidan Officially Full-On Dubber

304 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·

#704468
Hey Jase,

problem with just having filter up front is that it only works filtering the stuff coming out of the tank, which is ok, but
remember there is still steel pipe-work going through the tunnel which can collect crud as well from rust, age etc.
So if ur going to do it properly, have two, but if you have one, towards the rear is better.

You can leave it in that location, but just need a slight adjustment.

Rather leaving it dangle precariously where it is, pop rivet two clamps on the underside of the rear compartment
(same clamps sparkies use to hold pvc pipes against walls) and hook the filter into it - you may need to use
a bit longer fuel line to reach that high, but at least its outta the way there.

It may get the odd stone, mud thrown at it, so keep an eye on it - a plastic one may survive longer.

At least where its located, if something ever happens, there is no risk of fire.
IF I'M GOING TO HELL, I'M GOING IN A VW BEETLE

My Family's Swiss VW Buggy Legacy --------> CLICK HERE

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#704534
colonel mustard wrote:I also used the genuine Fuel line from classic and new clamps from my local auto store (budget auto oxley) They aren't the usual style clip - they are alot stronger and don't crush the fuel line in a bad way (the usual ones tear the rubber/fabric and make it ewwww).
I found some good clamps in the garden irrigation section of bunnings. They are your usual worm drive type but they use a thumb screw to tighten.

Most damage to fuel lines from worm drive clamps is from the tendancy to overtighten because you have all that leverage via your screwdriver.

With the thumb screw type, hand tight is enough and it makes changing hoses and filters really easy. The thumb screw also provides a good anchor point if you want to wire your carby and fuel pump to stop the brass tubes from popping out.

I've been using these clamps for a few years now without any problems.

Regards,

Matt.


http://portvwforum.freeforums.org

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#704549
Iv fixed it....!!! just got one piece of genuine fuel line where the filter was, and the filter is back in the engine bay.... on the left side, near the intake manifold. 🙂
the front one needs doing soon, but the line is bad up front so the tank will need to come out / be cleaned and sealed to the body etc etc. 🙂

DirkHedde Slammed & Awesome Dubber

91 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#704563
the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems

trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·

#704564
You fixed it by putting a filter in the engine bay? 🙄
Look right underneath where the fuel line runs. Hello mr distributor.

jedidan Officially Full-On Dubber

304 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·

#704566
DirkHedde wrote:the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
Hey Dirk - you obviously like fires in the engine bay you pyro-maniac 😂
IF I'M GOING TO HELL, I'M GOING IN A VW BEETLE

My Family's Swiss VW Buggy Legacy --------> CLICK HERE

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 ·

#704568
why would you want two?
put the nice looking chrome/glass one in the bin then go get one steel one z199
BUY A REAL BUG A PRE S BUG...

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#704570
Sure. I love putting my money in the bin. Think before you make a stupid suggestion.

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 ·

#704572
sorry mate but it's no worse then the idea of running a glass/chrome put it under the car then put it back in the engine bay and still have one up the front
BUY A REAL BUG A PRE S BUG...

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#704629
next to the gearbox is a good spot
like jedidan said it can catch the rust that comes from the solid line thro the tunnel

my advice is run a pressed metal EFI one
theyre not as vulnerable to rocks and would filter better than that glass one anyway
theyre designed for 40 odd PSI in EFI cars and last for 30,000km intervals


good move getting it out of the engine bay not only is a it a fire risk but being on the pressure side of the pump is just stupid for several reasons, 1 is they dont work as well cos the pump can force crap thro the paper filter, they are designed to be on the suction side and 2 is the added weight of it on the fuel lines bouncing around have a bad habit of pulling the brass fittings out of the carby and the fuel pump with the early bolt together style

had this happen to a mates bug on the way to valla once
not nice getting out and seeing the hot engine soaked in fuel

xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard

460 posts · joined Sep 2006 ·

#705362
DirkHedde wrote:the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
Would you state some of the many problems it can cause??
I always fit filters before the pump for two reasons, it filters the fuel going through the pump, and you dont have a filter under pressure...

New fuel pumps come with instructions to fit a filter on the intake side of them.

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#705384
just zip tie it to like the h/brake cable outta the way of the fast spinning thing n it will be sweet, 1 plastic filter will do the trick..
fractal geometry; the inner most limits of mind altering abuse

Fantasy http://seventhchronicle.com

Z = Z2 + C1/r = 1/0 = infinity

Barrels www.barrelman.com.au

VW Workshop - aircooledgarage.com.au
allcooled.com.au

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#705402
Its sorted now! Im going to go hard lines after I have the car painted next year. SS or something sturdy with decent sized filters (metal ones ....Fomoco ones probs)

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#705424
xornge666x wrote:
DirkHedde wrote:the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
Would you state some of the many problems it can cause??
I always fit filters before the pump for two reasons, it filters the fuel going through the pump, and you dont have a filter under pressure...

New fuel pumps come with instructions to fit a filter on the intake side of them.
there arent any problems with it
in fact when Lbugs started in 73 VW actually got rid of the in tank gauze and fitted a clear plastic filter in the hose between the tank and the chassis

some ppl dont even know about them, when i pulled the tank from my blue 73 Lbug it still had the genuine VW filter and crimp on VW clamps. never been changed
lets just say it was blocked!!

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#705476
That would be insanely blocked....

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#705486
i cut it open out of interest and yea u could say that

strangely tho it had a whole completely intact dead fly in it amongst other assorted crap

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#705490
hahaha thats hillarious. the fuel proabably preserved it for 10 years! surprising it still ran with a filter like that.

xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard

460 posts · joined Sep 2006 ·

#705861
Joel wrote:
xornge666x wrote:
DirkHedde wrote:the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
Would you state some of the many problems it can cause??
I always fit filters before the pump for two reasons, it filters the fuel going through the pump, and you dont have a filter under pressure...

New fuel pumps come with instructions to fit a filter on the intake side of them.
there arent any problems with it
in fact when Lbugs started in 73 VW actually got rid of the in tank gauze and fitted a clear plastic filter in the hose between the tank and the chassis

some ppl dont even know about them, when i pulled the tank from my blue 73 Lbug it still had the genuine VW filter and crimp on VW clamps. never been changed
lets just say it was blocked!!
Yeh I have seen those geunuine filters before too. Amazing how long they last. It also shows that the fuel was probably better quality up until fairly recently....

I know there is no issues with a filter before the pump, I am more curious what basis there was for such a statement offering someone advice!!
I have probably fitted hundreds of filters in between the pan and engine line, and never had a problem, or fire!!!!
I have removed probably just as many from engine bays!!

In my opinion those glass filters are too heavy for that location, and road debris could also cause an issue.

The brass fittings in the carb, and less often the fuel pump should also be checked like you said.
I like to peen them lightly just to tighten up the connection a little. Cant be too careful when it comes to engine fire...

General_Failure Use your head, don't abuse it!

1,036 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#706514
jedidan wrote:Rather leaving it dangle precariously where it is, pop rivet two clamps on the underside of the rear compartment
(same clamps sparkies use to hold pvc pipes against walls) and hook the filter into it - you may need to use
a bit longer fuel line to reach that high, but at least its outta the way there.
...
At least where its located, if something ever happens, there is no risk of fire.
Do you mean the _n shaped ones or the _n_ ones? I have a similar problem in my '75 bay which is about to get exacerbated even further by moving the electric fuel pump further forward. Its current setup has the fuel line sitting on the starter, and the pump hard up against the head tinware. It's only for moving it in the driveway if you are wondering.

There is always a chance for fire.
If at first you don't succeed. Build, build again.
Vehicle: 1975 Special order delivery walkthrough panel based LCA pop-top camper. Motor: Nippon 1.8L Single port Wasserboxer, Transmission: 3 rib 002.