Overheating '72

milestones54 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

99 posts · joined Mar 2009 · 3 Apr 2009, 2:52 pm

#704827

I couldnt find anything related to this anywhere so i hope it hasnt already been answered.
I have a '72 superbug (1600) stock engine (First car)
I have an engine temp gauge and the motor runs fine for half an hour but on any trip above this it starts tipping over half way.
I have no piping running from the doghouse and iv heard this can be bad.
Im also getting pinging (i think thats what it is)
How can i solve both these problems?

Thanks in advance 😀

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Apr 2009, 3:04 pm

#704829

where r u located

I suggest you take the car toa VW specialist

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21 posts · joined Mar 2009 · 3 Apr 2009, 3:33 pm

#704832

hey mate a pining sound could be a busted ring or something but the reason for the pinging may be because of the reason why you have an overheating problem so it could be your generator/alternator may not be turning the fan posibly because the fan belt slips or there isnt any belt driving the fan hope this help but also where are you located

hope this helps

pod i`ve got to finish this thing one day

4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 3 Apr 2009, 3:43 pm

#704834

pinging is usually timing which can make it heat up ,as Dave says ,take it to a vw specialist for a tune up and service👍

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970 posts · joined Mar 2005 · 3 Apr 2009, 4:26 pm

#704845

get those pipes on there... if there are just holes close them up...

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 3 Apr 2009, 6:50 pm

#704869

is there a temp scale on your gauge?
bare in mind most of those gauges are made for water cooled cars that run lower oil temps than our air cooled motors

if so what temp is it running cos over half is normal for a vw anything upto 105C/220F is normal

theres alot of varibles like where the guage sender is mounted, whether the previous owners have done the classic throw out the tinware trick or removed the heater hoses but left heaterboxes in place it all can all have that effect

plus other things like decklid with wrong vents, clogged up fan/shroud etc

and yes pinging is the engine trying to destroy itself
u need to get the timing checked ASAP

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Apr 2009, 8:24 pm

#704903

milestones54 wrote:I couldnt find anything related to this anywhere so i hope it hasnt already been answered.
I have a '72 superbug (1600) stock engine (First car)
I have an engine temp gauge and the motor runs fine for half an hour but on any trip above this it starts tipping over half way.
I have no piping running from the doghouse and iv heard this can be bad.
Im also getting pinging (i think thats what it is)
How can i solve both these problems?

Thanks in advance 😀

WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED ????

timing is too advanced --- Use Premium fuel - have the timing checked

replace the doghouse tinware...--
engine IS Overheating from Hot air from the oil cooler...

ALSO: Hot Air must stay under the tinware/engine compartment - Sucking in preheated air isn't good...

LEE

Both are VERY BAD for the engine...

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milestones54 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

99 posts · joined Mar 2009 · 4 Apr 2009, 2:16 pm

#704985

Thanks for the replies guys
Im located in Five Dock, close to Classic and Vintage Vee Dub
Heres my engine

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pod i`ve got to finish this thing one day

4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 4 Apr 2009, 2:46 pm

#704991

definitely needs the hoses for the heater or the holes blocking up as it would be blowing the cooling air all through the engine bay ,and if blocking fan housing holes you need to block tinware holes as well🙂

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9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 4 Apr 2009, 3:39 pm

#705001

does your engine still have the heater boxes underneath?

if it does you need to reinstall those missing heater hoses not block off the outlets

but if the heaterboxes have been removed and J pipes fitted then just get some plugs and block off the outlets on the shroud and cover over the holes in the breast plate

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Apr 2009, 4:18 pm

#705009

Hi Miles

the PLUGS - these Holes have to be plugged up with 2 inch cup type welch plugs...
most VW shops would have them...

The HOLES in the tinware have to be covered up also..
65mm plates - one on top one below with a screw thru the centre..

a LOT of HOT air from the exhaust is coming thru those holes...

Pinging destroys VW engines fast...
they need to be in tune all the time...

There may be someone on here that can help You...

Not sure where you are located..

LEE

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