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isky Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#720324
Groovers,

Well im about to install the windscreen on my latest Ghia. It came with the glass not install and is complete with chrome moldings. Ive read that installing a ghia windscreen can be a bitch. Im going to get windscreens O'Brien to do it but was wondering if any of you had any advice. The guy who sold me the car said when he got them out to do his other Ghia it took half a day!...i just wanted to be prepared and to give them any advice i can. Cheers!

Isky

ps Oh im taking the moldings of my other car because the crome is in better nick. Its possible to take the moldings off with out removing the whole glass isnt it??
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#720437
cut the old rubbers on the other screen to remove the glass n trim in one go that way u wont crack the glass or damage the moldings

when removed the moldings make sure u clean the inside and out in the grooves etc etc to remove all the dirt and gunk

this will make them fit fit the new rubbers much better and sit correctly

make sure they center the join in the rubbers to the center of the screeen so they hide behind the trim cover joiners


clean all the edges of the glass so the rubbers sit correctly and they seal as well no need for goo either

And lots of luck with the windscreen mob make sure they guarantee to replace the glass if they brake it
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isky Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#720439
thanks vw54,

so are you saying its not possible to take the molding off my other ghia without cutting the existing seal and thus removing the complete windshields....id like to resell it later and would prefer to do so with the windscreen still intact no matter what condition the seal. Also what do you mean by "no need for goo" is that a glue that they use to stick it in place. Cheers
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#720454
well if u try removing the trims with out cutting the rubbers you will bend n distort the trims and they wont fit the new screens as they r fragile so cutting is the best method

yes goo most windscreen places want to use it by the bucket loads the VW seals are designed to be fitted without it
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isky Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#720532
thanks mate...i thought trying to get them out without cutting might be a bit dicey. So am i going about this the right way? That is getting Windscreens O'Brien to do it? or is there another company that might be a better choice?
my Karman looks worse than my avatar....seriously!

...but i love it more than words can say


1960 Karmann Ghia
1961 Karmann Ghia
1975 Bug
1998 Transporter LWB
1992 Nissan Maxima

www.iskyC96.com (awesome corsets 😉)
www.moonstarmagic.com

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#720595
Unfortunately it is not just the company name, but also the actual guy doing the fitting of the screens that counts. You might get a major company with a really good fitter employed at that branch, or you may get an independent glass company that has no experience with this type of glass.

The moulds are not common. Save the moulds. Cut the rubber. If the body of the vehicle is real smooth and clean, and the rubber is good quality, then no sealer has to be used, however I will always use a minimal amount. Some cars I do, I know that the rubbers are not available in good quality, so more sealer (goo) is required.
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isky Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#720622
Yes i thought so...Great thanks for your help mate 👍 Cheers!

ps. "Some cars I do"! If your in the Brisbane area and feel like helping a fellow dubber please let me know 😀 I can always get the seals from o.s and am willing to reimburse you for your time and experience...Thanks again!

Anthony
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...but i love it more than words can say


1960 Karmann Ghia
1961 Karmann Ghia
1975 Bug
1998 Transporter LWB
1992 Nissan Maxima

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www.moonstarmagic.com

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#720637
Unfortunatly Helbus is ine Melbourg n I am in Sunnny sydney

as per above its the guy doing the work that makes the difference find a small shop someone whos been in business fora while and will take the time to do job properly
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isky Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#720647
thanks Dave, i worked that out after i clicked on one of your links last night mate 🙂 Thanks for all your advice, it will be valuable...
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...but i love it more than words can say


1960 Karmann Ghia
1961 Karmann Ghia
1975 Bug
1998 Transporter LWB
1992 Nissan Maxima

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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#720970
Dont want to be a pain, but if you are wanting to fit a non laminated window, it may not be legal for the window compay to fit it.

Newt
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isky Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#720974
Thanks Newt...

I dont think any window company could care less as long as they make their dosh. Obrien's just quoted me 600 bucks with me supplying the glass! They got buckleys!! besides im going to take 'vw58's' advice and look for a small business with experience...or even wait till i start my panel beating and car resto course at tafe and see if they can help if i get the rubber seals.

...and a good comment is never a pain 🙂
my Karman looks worse than my avatar....seriously!

...but i love it more than words can say


1960 Karmann Ghia
1961 Karmann Ghia
1975 Bug
1998 Transporter LWB
1992 Nissan Maxima

www.iskyC96.com (awesome corsets 😉)
www.moonstarmagic.com

Calcool Fahrvergnugen

965 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#721950
Can be done, you need lots of patience. All good advice so far. I am in Brisbane and have fitted them before, but I am very time poor. Let me know how you go, or give me a call.

Cheers,

David

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vwsteve karmann crazy

2,087 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·

#721972
if you get desperate you can come for a drive to caboolture some time with all the trims rubber and screen, i will show you how its done then, im time poor too🤪
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isky Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#722230
Hey Rexy and David!

Thanks heaps for the offers! i might need to take you up on it. Id really like to get my car on the road even though it still looks pretty bad. At least there's no rust and its solid. If i wait till the panel resto course that might take literally weeks if not months.

Just out of curiosity i still have the rubbers / glass and moldings that came with it. Its the c-section molding. I was wanting to put a more chromier better quality molding in from my other red parts ghia but will need to buy new rubbers because it is the T-groove moldings and the rubbers holding them in atm are shite. I also plan to take the glass out a couple of years down the track when its time to paint, Do you think i should put the original crappy c-groove rubbers on in the mean time or just put the chromier red cars windows with new rubbers in? I should be able to remove the new rubbers down the track and reinstall shouldn't i?

Does any of what i just said make sense? Thanks heaps for the offer, much appreciated!

Anthony
my Karman looks worse than my avatar....seriously!

...but i love it more than words can say


1960 Karmann Ghia
1961 Karmann Ghia
1975 Bug
1998 Transporter LWB
1992 Nissan Maxima

www.iskyC96.com (awesome corsets 😉)
www.moonstarmagic.com