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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

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This is going no were
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GeorgeL Officially Full-On Dubber

231 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#722318
seagull wrote:This is going no were
Many times I have gone nowhere yet found the trips to be quite enjoyable! 🙂

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#722452
Hi George , I few over you house the other day


I think to date I have seen every kind of *working* gear box set up , the best I have seen in countrys UN5 transaxel with a 9" ford LSD diff in a custom housing. I get a photo of this as it was made in a back yard shed.It holds up to a 400kw nissan turbo motor
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GeorgeL Officially Full-On Dubber

231 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#722458
seagull wrote:Hi George , I few over you house the other day


I think to date I have seen every kind of *working* gear box set up , the best I have seen in countrys UN5 transaxel with a 9" ford LSD diff in a custom housing. I get a photo of this as it was made in a back yard shed.It holds up to a 400kw nissan turbo motor
I never cease to be astounded by the backyard ingenuity that pops out now and then. Sometimes the result is humorous, sometimes remarkable.

Unfortunately, around here most of the people who need really strong transaxles just get out their Visa card and head for Mendeola. They make great stuff, but I can't justify that sort of money for my hobby vehicles.

There's a 914 that's been sitting under a tarp up the street for years. Now if I could convince that guy to sell it I'd have a Subaru engine and transaxle installed in very short order! 🙂

ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#731047
Well this thread seems to have gone dead as usually is the case when people find out how hard it really is to use the Subi box. So...just to keep you punters interested, here's a lil pic of a reverse cut crownwheel and pinion manufactured and being checked for hypoid. Hopefully one day soon it will be completed and land on these fair shores..

Reversed gears for Subaru transmissions.
Fit a Subaru 5 speed to your rear engined car
www.subarugears.com

ernie norley Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#731124
been following with interest for use in a syncro powered by an ej20 turbo down the track. Do you think it will carry the extra weight compared to beetle the syncro is currently on it 2nd box rebuild costing $4.500 the owner has purchased 2 other syncro's for the transmissions oh yea of little faith
keep up the process for it has got to pay of in the end
Ernie

orange_spitfire Learner Dubber

13 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#739719
I'm still workin on this everybody! I'm having alittle trouble finding straight cut gears ( I've decided to go this way for the ease[?] of locating them.) that are strong enough to use. Anybody have any suggestions?? I'm planning on cutting out the centers of the straight cuts to insert a center to fit my axle stub.

ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#739793
Keep at it orange spitfire, these things are not easy to solve. My reverse cut crownwheel and pinion gears to suit the Subaru transaxle are on their way to me new so we may be building a box next week for imminent destructive testing. I have a feeling they might go in front of an EJ257 motor.
Reversed gears for Subaru transmissions.
Fit a Subaru 5 speed to your rear engined car
www.subarugears.com

ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#758298
Hey all, the reverse-cut crownwheel and pinion sets are now available to build Subaru transaxles and stick em in the back of VW chassis of all sorts. The ratio is 41/11.

There are a couple of different ways to build them depending on whether or not you need them short enough to fit into a beetle without cutting the torsion bars. Using a 4WD box with the 2wd Subaru nosecone achieves this.

I have put together a website outlining the basics :
Subaru Reverse Cut Gears

Take a look and let me know what you think.
Reversed gears for Subaru transmissions.
Fit a Subaru 5 speed to your rear engined car
www.subarugears.com

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#758311
Looks great, well done to you for going through with this venture, now all the hard work is done you should be selling them like hot cakes 👍👍

4WD Super Baja sound too easy now 🙂
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

Flintstones Custom Title Time!

1,077 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#758402
Sounds really good what you've been able to achieve 👍👍
Have you tested this in either form as yet? 2wd/4wd
Cheers

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#758439
ttriebler wrote:Hey all, the reverse-cut crownwheel and pinion sets are now available to build Subaru transaxles and stick em in the back of VW chassis of all sorts. The ratio is 41/11.

There are a couple of different ways to build them depending on whether or not you need them short enough to fit into a beetle without cutting the torsion bars. Using a 4WD box with the 2wd Subaru nosecone achieves this.

I have put together a website outlining the basics :
Subaru Reverse Cut Gears

Take a look and let me know what you think.
...any test done with this box as yet?....this would be the best way for sales...

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#758440
seagull wrote:Hi George , I few over you house the other day


I think to date I have seen every kind of *working* gear box set up , the best I have seen in countrys UN5 transaxel with a 9" ford LSD diff in a custom housing. I get a photo of this as it was made in a back yard shed.It holds up to a 400kw nissan turbo motor
yes yes UN5😎

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#758453
What !

Like this !

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ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#759218
Nice!!! that UN1 looks stuffed in there nice and snug!

To answer people's questions, no we haven't had the chance to test a gearset in a vehicle yet, just built one into a gearbox.
I'm currently building one up into a 2wd box which we will install into a buggy for testing & documentation.
Will also give us a chance to maybe develop a complete kit of mounts, shifter and so on to install into type 1 pans with Subie motor.
Judging by the measurements, the 2wd box will not need torsion bar cutting and will also get a Subie motor forward enough for the cam covers on the quad cam motors to clear the tinware on a beetle.

In the meantime, we want to build up the number of installed boxes out there in different vehicles. I'm guaranteeing them for 12 months in installs of up to 350hp with a replace or 110% money back guarantee. I'll also cover the cost of shipping both ways if it fails.

That will be good enough for some to jump in and give it a try and others will want to sit back and wait to see the proof. That's cool too.
Reversed gears for Subaru transmissions.
Fit a Subaru 5 speed to your rear engined car
www.subarugears.com

JVLRacing Custom Title Time!

1,100 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#759233
350hp gearbox is a big figure untested!......
I like the way ur thinking outside the square😊 but for these boxes to be proven and to sell ...proof in the pudding is wat people want.....

So do u have a total$ on the box forsale?

ttriebler Officially Full-On Dubber

321 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#759286
Yep I am confident of the crownwheel and pinion manufacturing quality. It's design up to 350hp and beyond is already proven in the thousands of WRX's running 260kw+ atw. Remember, all we did was flip the diff, didn't change any tooth profile. I cannot gurantee the entire gearbox to a rated hp as I don't supply gearboxes, only crownwheels and pinions. However there's plenty of them out there holding it and more if fitted with aftermarket gears.

As you say though, the proof is in the pudding so I gotta build up my test gearboxes. Getting some 2wd nosecones tonight so I should have a 4 bolt and 8 bolt test box built fairly soon. These will not be for sale, they are to document the process and then fit into my manx.
Reversed gears for Subaru transmissions.
Fit a Subaru 5 speed to your rear engined car
www.subarugears.com

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#759315
matberry wrote:What !

Like this !
No Matt , nothing like that I will get a photo soon
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#759367
Promises, promises.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE