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Eatsleepvw Learner Dubber

11 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·

#728031
I am looking at getting an early 60's beetle and putting a large but streetable engine in it. Can I make an early pan handle well enough for street use or do I have to do the whole 68 irs pan thing?

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#728036
yes-ish

IRS is better than swing axle

An early pan will come drum brakes.

As a minimum you will want to upgrade the fronts to disc and dual circuit

It is a LOT easier (and cheaper) to do the conversion
The down side is you loose wide 5 bolt pattern

hmmmmm..................looks V safety 😀

There are ways to retain the wide 5 though
Futue te ipsum!!!

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#728058
It's even easier (and cheaper) still to stick with the drums & swing axle set-up. There are a few inexpensive mods that you can do to improve handling, and the drums are quite adequate. My swing axle, drum brake, link pin, 15x4.5F, 15x5.5R '59 Beetle handles 100+ HP nicely thank you.

Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

sander288 "Bolt-on Master"

1,404 posts · joined Aug 2008 ·

#728070
Greg, were you running in the matte black bug at the supersprint? because you looked quick and it really seemed like good fun... what sought of set-up are you running?
BMW R65 LS
1967 1300 Deluxe
Swing-axles FTW ❗

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#728076
Yes that was me in the black-ish '59. It sure is good fun! I assume you mean suspension set-up. Basically it's This:-

FRONT......Stock beam with tosion bar adjusters, stock trailing arms,link pins,king pins etc.,15x4.5 rims,19mm tubular A/R bar, and another secret mod to limit lower trailing arm flex. Koni adj. shocks.

REAR......Stock swing-axles and torsion bars,15x5.5 rims with heavy (about 10mm) compensating spring. Koni adj. shocks.

Stock drum brakes all round, with finned aluminium rings shrunk onto drums - helps to keep them round.

Oh, there's one more thing that helps..............50 years of driving Beetles!

Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

Eatsleepvw Learner Dubber

11 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·

#728094
Thanks alot for the advice, I would really like to keep the wide 5 pattern, so I guess I'll have to rack up 50 years of beetle experience lol.