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electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#740615
Thanks PM sent. Nice to be riding the crest of the wave with you lot. Here's hoping for the best results possible. Good luck to everyone.
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#741143
Here are some wiring diagrams on the net. There will be some differences. Some of these state that if the bulb is blown that the alt will not work, this is correct for the original vw alt found in the type 1's but not for these alts as they are excited through the IG wire.
D+ wire at generator should go to the main power terminal on the alternator.
IG goes to the ignition.
L is connected to the DF wire in the engine bay.

Generator regulator is removed or disconnected.
D+ is bridged to B+
DF is bridged to wire 61(this goes to the dash light)

http://www.vw-resource.com/alternator.html#wiring

http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/schem/gen_alt.htm
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#741297
Thanks mate -

it arrived yesterday during my little girls birthday party. Nice that I got a present too!

I'm on this right now.

I'll post some pics and a report tonight!

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#741312
Cool, hope all goes well. Just remember to disconnect the battery first before you start to play.
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#741318
mackaymanx wrote:Here are some wiring diagrams on the net. There will be some differences. Some of these state that if the bulb is blown that the alt will not work, this is correct for the original vw alt found in the type 1's but not for these alts as they are excited through the IG wire.
PROBLEM!!! Because the RED D+ wire should be sent to both the battery and subsequently the starter solenoid with the standard wiring setup plus the fuse box (by bridging at the voltage regulator), what exactly gets connected to the ignition terminal on the altinator? The light terminal gets the DF GREEN wire, but does the ignition need a new 30 amp wire to the 2nd red (fusebox) connection at the regulator?
D+ wire at generator should go to the main power terminal on the alternator.
IG goes to the ignition.
L is connected to the DF wire in the engine bay.

Generator regulator is removed or disconnected.
D+ is bridged to B+
DF is bridged to wire 61(this goes to the dash light)

http://www.vw-resource.com/alternator.html#wiring

http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/schem/gen_alt.htm

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#741320
The wiring diagram would indicate the splice at the regulator would be enough for ignition... Hmmm... Empty ignition terminal or new wire... Hmmm...

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#741326
The IG wire goes to the positive side of the coil. So the alt excites when the ignition is turned on.
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#741337
Eureka - it's alive! It's ALIVE!!!

Running at a sweet 14.8 to 14.11V at low cold idle and high RPM's. Genny light comes on for ignition and goes straight out as she fires up.

Started up 5 times, all good and kept pumping out the voltage.

It looks like you might be onto something Dr FrankenManx! I'll keep you posted as I road test over the next couple of weeks.

Interestingly, I found some circuit diagrams for these alternators on both a Triumph motorcycle and a light aircraft site among others. Looks like they get around!

Muchos Gracias Amigo!

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#741338
I've been idling the engine now for 35 minutes. the alternator is up to 14.12V and not even thinking about getting warm.

telf Officially Full-On Dubber

207 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#741984
Hi vwombat i got mine late last week. I was gona fit it over the week end but ran out of time Since you've got yours going could you pm me your ph no so i can confirm what wires go where.
Thanks Telf

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#742064
Bring it up if you want. See PM.

Went for a long, fast, hot day run and it's still going like a bought one!

vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#742482
Sheesh! Somebody deleted my PHOTOS from the camera.

I'll have to go and make some new ones now, and so much for my before and afters!!!

Blood - I want BLOOD!

telf Officially Full-On Dubber

207 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#742501
Thanks for your help on the phone last night.
Ill try and get some pics of the before.
and put them up!

electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#742520
Mine arrived late yesterday. Hope to be fitting it today.
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#742681
Oh god look at all that smoke!!!!
LOL Just kidding. Installed today and 14.5 Volts. Have not driven it on the road yet but may be able to try it tonight.
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#742683
ha bloody ha 😂
Good to see they have been a reasonably easy fit. Now we see if they stand up to everyday use.
vwombat you have the alt (003) with the upward facing terminal? make sure you use the the boot on the main terminal (just as a safety measure)

More here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=377832&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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vwombat Hey Ho - Lets GO!

1,218 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#742729
It's on and cruising! You are an official Entrepreneur!

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#742748
Yeah sure, Watch out Donald Trump! 👍
Just wanted to check on that alt as I assembled it with the terminal upward as it has a shorter terminal.
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electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#742816
Mate I think these would sell quite well. The install took all of twenty minutes. You could be on a winner
Took the car for a spin tonight and all went well (apart from the blasted timing on the 009. After a good drive still 14.5 volts.
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

telf Officially Full-On Dubber

207 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#742946
Finally got it in the car. It was pretty straight forward. It took me a bit more than 20 mins, but i was messin about doing some other small stuff whilst i had the alt off the car. Whilst idling it was on about 13.25. Cant wait to put it in to daily use.
Ill keep you up to date!

Thanks Telf
Sorry but forgot to take some picks

electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#744108
Still going strong, got a couple of drives in before rego expired. Crappy 009 gave me hell but Alternator works a charm. Might be a week or so before she is on the road again
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

telf Officially Full-On Dubber

207 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#751223
Still Going strong!!!

electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#751874
Same here.
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#752131
ummm...But I haven't done my hair. Seriously though I should be able to take a couple this week
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

brightsparq Learner Dubber

3 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#753187
Cool idea just wondering what the output amperage is ?

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#753200
They should be about 45 amps (from early swift/barina). I can get a 100 amp alt to convert but they are very expensive.
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brightsparq Learner Dubber

3 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#753363
Anybody with one fitted got a dc clampmeter/ amp gauge? 45 amps is pretty reasonable output. Are these fitted to anything else apart from swift/ barina?

mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#753388
I got 5 junk ones from my local auto electeician and when I went through the part numbers I got Yanmar, Suzuki and Diahatsu(feroza applause charade). Early '90s for the suzukis and I think the same for the diahausu stuff also.
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