Did I see a silver Karmann coupe on the tv program about the Classic Adelaide?
Newt
Newt Wolfsburg Wizard
478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·
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shaihulud Custom Title Time!
1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
You did.
For a few seconds there was a silver Karmann Ghia on the screen, then the show went back to showing far too much of the boring moderns.
If I want to see WRXs and EVOs racing/rallying then I'll watch TV shows about rallies.
The TV shows of the Targa Tasmania, Classic Adelaide and Classic Perth concentrate on the moderns and the ultimate winners.
They only show glimpses of the real reason why I tune in. That is the real old classics. For example. There was a 1930s Jaguar SS100 on the podium as a class winner, but they never once showed it being driven.
I think that the people who run those events have lost the real reason why the event is run, which is to drive old classics and not to really care about who is the overall winner in some expensive modern dream car.
If it wasn't for the large field of slower also rans in the event, the event would not happen. People sponsor cars in the Targa/Classics to get some advertising time in return. If their sposorship of a car is not shown for even a few seconds, then there is a chance that they will not sponsor future competitors and the result can only be a reduction in the appeal of the whole event.
"Phooey!!! to them all," I say, "A pox on their houses."
PS
As an example of what I'm talking about. One of my brothers in law sailed in the Sydney to Hobart race a few years ago. He was sponsored by his employer, Fuji. They paid for a new spinnaker in company colours and with Fuji written all over it in huge letters. He flew it most of the time. Never once was his spinnaker shown on the TV because he was an also ran. The TV concentrated on the winners. Fuji would not sponsor him again because they did not get any TV airtime from their expense. If the TV had shown his spinnaker for about 10 seconds of the one hour TV show about the race, Fuji would have been satisfied and would have sponsored him again.
Am I alone in this? I don't care who wins. I want to see all of the competitors, no matter how slow or behind they are.
For a few seconds there was a silver Karmann Ghia on the screen, then the show went back to showing far too much of the boring moderns.
If I want to see WRXs and EVOs racing/rallying then I'll watch TV shows about rallies.
The TV shows of the Targa Tasmania, Classic Adelaide and Classic Perth concentrate on the moderns and the ultimate winners.
They only show glimpses of the real reason why I tune in. That is the real old classics. For example. There was a 1930s Jaguar SS100 on the podium as a class winner, but they never once showed it being driven.
I think that the people who run those events have lost the real reason why the event is run, which is to drive old classics and not to really care about who is the overall winner in some expensive modern dream car.
If it wasn't for the large field of slower also rans in the event, the event would not happen. People sponsor cars in the Targa/Classics to get some advertising time in return. If their sposorship of a car is not shown for even a few seconds, then there is a chance that they will not sponsor future competitors and the result can only be a reduction in the appeal of the whole event.
"Phooey!!! to them all," I say, "A pox on their houses."
PS
As an example of what I'm talking about. One of my brothers in law sailed in the Sydney to Hobart race a few years ago. He was sponsored by his employer, Fuji. They paid for a new spinnaker in company colours and with Fuji written all over it in huge letters. He flew it most of the time. Never once was his spinnaker shown on the TV because he was an also ran. The TV concentrated on the winners. Fuji would not sponsor him again because they did not get any TV airtime from their expense. If the TV had shown his spinnaker for about 10 seconds of the one hour TV show about the race, Fuji would have been satisfied and would have sponsored him again.
Am I alone in this? I don't care who wins. I want to see all of the competitors, no matter how slow or behind they are.
swish1 Officially Full-On Dubber
264 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·
They did show the demise of the Eureka, classic yobbo fans clapping and cheering after he hit the gaurd rail .
i started with nothing and have most of it left !
Craig S Wolfsburg Wizard
635 posts · joined May 2008 ·
I believe there were two VWs in competition, a KG driven by Rene Fiekl?? and a Beetle with (I think) Adam DeBiasi. From what I can remember both dropped out due to mechanical problems, but full details should be available on the competition website. http://www.classicadelaide.com.au/ca10/index.asp
The KG was storming along, and comfortably beating the 260Z driven by one of the directors from my work, and I was looking forward to giving him heaps about that until it pulled out.
One of the guys on this forum (Doctor) is a photographer and has some photos on his website. He does have an excellent photo of a Ferrari on the front page of the website.
http://www.drmphotography.net/
http://www.drmphotography.net/wp-content/gallery/classic-adelaide-2009-day-two/whickam-strath_d2-486.jpg
http://www.drmphotography.net/wp-content/gallery/classic-adelaide-2009-day-two/whickam-strath_d2-94.jpg
And one of the director from my work:
http://www.drmphotography.net/wp-content/gallery/classic-adelaide-2009-day-four-mt-lofty/lofty_jump-146.jpg
Cheers
Craig
The KG was storming along, and comfortably beating the 260Z driven by one of the directors from my work, and I was looking forward to giving him heaps about that until it pulled out.
One of the guys on this forum (Doctor) is a photographer and has some photos on his website. He does have an excellent photo of a Ferrari on the front page of the website.
http://www.drmphotography.net/
http://www.drmphotography.net/wp-content/gallery/classic-adelaide-2009-day-two/whickam-strath_d2-486.jpg
http://www.drmphotography.net/wp-content/gallery/classic-adelaide-2009-day-two/whickam-strath_d2-94.jpg
And one of the director from my work:
http://www.drmphotography.net/wp-content/gallery/classic-adelaide-2009-day-four-mt-lofty/lofty_jump-146.jpg
Cheers
Craig
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Yes,
I agree...
I only watch the targa's etc to see the oldies...
but as You said... they don't show them...
I may have to visit adelaide to see this classic.. and see the classic and vintage/veteran cars...
Shame about the sponsorships though...
same as the V8's they even count how many seconds they are on the screen... lol
so, the easiest way is to crash... in front of the cameras of course... lol
You never see the old cars doing 110 kmh flat out, with skinny wheels etc... Now that is brave... lol
and no roll cages either... many have no roof...
I love em...
LEE
I agree...
I only watch the targa's etc to see the oldies...
but as You said... they don't show them...
I may have to visit adelaide to see this classic.. and see the classic and vintage/veteran cars...
Shame about the sponsorships though...
same as the V8's they even count how many seconds they are on the screen... lol
so, the easiest way is to crash... in front of the cameras of course... lol
You never see the old cars doing 110 kmh flat out, with skinny wheels etc... Now that is brave... lol
and no roll cages either... many have no roof...
I love em...
LEE
shaihulud wrote:You did.
For a few seconds there was a silver Karmann Ghia on the screen, then the show went back to showing far too much of the boring moderns.
If I want to see WRXs and EVOs racing/rallying then I'll watch TV shows about rallies.
The TV shows of the Targa Tasmania, Classic Adelaide and Classic Perth concentrate on the moderns and the ultimate winners.
They only show glimpses of the real reason why I tune in. That is the real old classics. For example. There was a 1930s Jaguar SS100 on the podium as a class winner, but they never once showed it being driven.
I think that the people who run those events have lost the real reason why the event is run, which is to drive old classics and not to really care about who is the overall winner in some expensive modern dream car.
If it wasn't for the large field of slower also rans in the event, the event would not happen. People sponsor cars in the Targa/Classics to get some advertising time in return. If their sposorship of a car is not shown for even a few seconds, then there is a chance that they will not sponsor future competitors and the result can only be a reduction in the appeal of the whole event.
"Phooey!!! to them all," I say, "A pox on their houses."
PS
As an example of what I'm talking about. One of my brothers in law sailed in the Sydney to Hobart race a few years ago. He was sponsored by his employer, Fuji. They paid for a new spinnaker in company colours and with Fuji written all over it in huge letters. He flew it most of the time. Never once was his spinnaker shown on the TV because he was an also ran. The TV concentrated on the winners. Fuji would not sponsor him again because they did not get any TV airtime from their expense. If the TV had shown his spinnaker for about 10 seconds of the one hour TV show about the race, Fuji would have been satisfied and would have sponsored him again.
Am I alone in this? I don't care who wins. I want to see all of the competitors, no matter how slow or behind they are.
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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard
478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·
That looks like some serious rubber on the KG.
I wonder how he does it. My 165s scrape on the front...
Newt
I wonder how he does it. My 165s scrape on the front...
Newt
It is as it is - If you didnt enjoy today, you've missed the opportunity.
boristherat Wolfsburg Wizard
563 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·
Spot on guys. I have been going out to Classic Adelaide since the first and i am becoming more and more upset by the infiltration of the modern tarmac rally crap being brought out in recent years. After chatting to some fellow enthusiasts, the organisers have had to turn to the heavily sponsored moderns to keep numbers up due to economic times. It seems a bit of a quandry...if it were me in charge (cue if I ruled the world music).....more air time of classics=more sponsor interest in classics=more being dragged out of sheds and entered if only in touring class....dunno, thats just me. Guess it's a double edged sword.
Trust me though, there were many awesome early Porsches, some great old Benz's and yes, the Karmann, Purvis and Adams Beetle.
I have lots of shots. I will post some up in a smidge......
Trust me though, there were many awesome early Porsches, some great old Benz's and yes, the Karmann, Purvis and Adams Beetle.
I have lots of shots. I will post some up in a smidge......
1959 Mercedes Benz 190
1963 Chevrolet Corvair
1969 BMW 2002 Auto
1973 Mercedes Benz 230.6
boristherat Wolfsburg Wizard
563 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·
Just to prove that it wasn't all ugly Evo and Rex vents and grilles......he's a few of the real classics........
1959 Mercedes Benz 190
1963 Chevrolet Corvair
1969 BMW 2002 Auto
1973 Mercedes Benz 230.6
HappyDaze Superannuated
2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·
Wow, great photos, great cars, particularly that RSK Porsche!
Sadly, motorsport - and many other things in this world today - is controlled mainly by TV and lawyers! We've allowed this to happen and now, I suppose, we must live with it.
Cheers(?), Greg
Sadly, motorsport - and many other things in this world today - is controlled mainly by TV and lawyers! We've allowed this to happen and now, I suppose, we must live with it.
Cheers(?), Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
bat69 There is no status
791 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
I remember when this event first ran and it was only for 'classic' cars. Now it is over run with late model $hit. I fail to see how a evo or rex is a 'classic' rally car. But in saying that in order to get the $$ and the TV you need to support the car companies which spend the dollars for the TV to start with. Unfortunately nothing is free. Even free to air TV. As long as motor sport is getting promoted, then I see it as a good thing. Nice photos to btw. This event is one that is in on my list as a must do. Hopefully one day soon.
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shaihulud Custom Title Time!
1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
Thanks for the pictures. That's what I wanted to see on the TV.
I'm pleased that I'm not alone. I understand the economic problems with the new trend, but its a real tragedy.
The general public doesn't seem to care, so it will continue to be dominated by the moderns and the dollars. What a shame.
In the Classic Adeliade show a young man was shown enthusing about the classics that he loved to see. The Datsun 260Zs. Hmmm! Classics. Yes, but only just.
I'm pleased that I'm not alone. I understand the economic problems with the new trend, but its a real tragedy.
The general public doesn't seem to care, so it will continue to be dominated by the moderns and the dollars. What a shame.
In the Classic Adeliade show a young man was shown enthusing about the classics that he loved to see. The Datsun 260Zs. Hmmm! Classics. Yes, but only just.
Wannavee Insano Dub Head
729 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·
The black gull wing Merc
OH MY!!!!!
OH MY!!!!!