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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts ยท joined Oct 2008 ยท

#757945
Any machine shop should be able to make them up for you.

If you have any troubles let me know.
If you give me the exact dimensions I can have them made for you in the machine shop at work.

I'm sure it'll probably be easier to get onto a local machine/engineering place.

Are they mild steel? Or some sort of brass/other alloy?

Smiley
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#757955
They are steel but being as they have the weight of the front spindle pushing up against it they are more than likely some tougher and probably toughened form of steel.

Not sure if phorous bronze could be used as a substitute? I'm just wondering exactly what they are made of so that new ones can be made and not have something that wears the link pin yoke at a greater rate ๐Ÿค“

can a machine shop do a hardness test or nitride/toughen the new ones they make?
madness is in the eye of the beholder ๐Ÿ‘

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

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#757959
psimitar wrote:can a machine shop do a hardness test or nitride/toughen the new ones they make?
Sorry mate. That info excess my knowledge.

Maybe put something in tech talk asking what is the best material to have the new ones made of.

Smiley
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#757967
smileyman3000 wrote:
psimitar wrote:can a machine shop do a hardness test or nitride/toughen the new ones they make?
Sorry mate. That info excess my knowledge.

Maybe put something in tech talk asking what is the best material to have the new ones made of.

Smiley
Yea, it's exceeded mine too.

Think I best do a tech talk like you say ๐Ÿ™‚

Cheers tho,
Mike
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#761134
So Tim sent me some pictures of the beam being narrowed and lowered and here they are.






As you can see the meat was taken from the middle of the beam and also the inner of the shock towers shaved, strengthened and angled slightly for greater clearance.
Once the QLD weather is more stable I'll finish re-painting it, promise ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

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#761179
Looking sweet mate! Can't wait to do this mod to my '68. Low and slow! Smiley
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#761315
Yea looking forward to getting that front end a bit lower ๐Ÿ™‚

Oh yea pics of the seat height being setup




Was easier with just the seat base but I can now measure things up to get the frames done. Not sure if I should get 2.5 or 3mm thick square tubing to make the frames from.
It does look hiegh but then the seat bottom is much thinner than the old VW one. Still I may have to make a vinyl skirt to hide the frame. we shall see ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Aussie Officially Full-On Dubber

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#761512
psimitar wrote:After playing with the sand blaster at work I painted up the IRS arms on Saturday. Very nice and shiney now.

Before


after


something went right this weekend so that's cool ๐Ÿ˜‰ cos I've given up with the pan and am taking it for sand blasting ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Mmmmm shiny! What paint did you use on these?

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#761535
Aussie wrote:Mmmmm shiny! What paint did you use on these?
KBS Rustseal. It's the Aussie version of POR15. It goes on very smoothly but for a good finish you have to make sure it's not too hot, above 28C, and do nice thin coats or it'll get microbubbles in the finish and ruin it.

Like I say it's good stuff but time consuming to prep and paint correctly to get a good finish. Wish this bloody heat would be done with so I can finish a few bits off ๐Ÿ™‚
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#762034
So a few more piccies to keep the thread looking colourful. Here's the seat with it's runner back on and the height rechecked and the seat base positioned properly ready for measuring for the frames.




Frames will have some interesting angles to get the seat sitting properly but then that's half the fun ๐Ÿ˜€
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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#762044
Just sit them on the floor and sit on a phone book or something... Booster seat...

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#762166
colonel mustard wrote:Just sit them on the floor and sit on a phone book or something... Booster seat...
mate if it would get me a pink sheet I would ๐Ÿ˜‚
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#763317
So I got one side of the seat frame done tonite before noise restrictions. Unfortunately wifey was tired so sleeping during the noise hours so I couldn't get the other sides angle pieces cut.

Oh well, here's what we have so far




These are angled front to back and top to bottom to get them to fit nicely just incase you wondered why look on the piss ๐Ÿ™‚
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#765051
So I have been working on the seat frames and am done apart from some additional bracing and the seat runner modified to fit properly ๐Ÿ™‚





Just some inserts to machine up to stop the box crushing when bolted up and she's a goodun ๐Ÿ™‚
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#765052
So after much fun playing with compound angles :moon: I have finished the mounting frame



Now I don't know about you guys but I don't think I made it strong enough ๐Ÿ˜‚ do you think it'll pass the engineers test?

4m of 2.5mm thick 40mm steel box section weighing in at about 10-12kg. I just need to clean the surface rust off and paint it black and then weld the seat runners on ๐Ÿ™‚ oh and bugger it, I still need to fab those inserts for the mounting bolt holes.

Ah it's a good job I have no friends otherwise this woulda taken me forever ๐Ÿ˜‰
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts ยท joined Mar 2006 ยท

#765074
A few more diagonals to make sure it doesn't rack could be nice.....๐Ÿ˜‚.....looks like your not worried about weight ๐Ÿ™‚
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waveman1500 Also rides a Honda

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#765190
Hell's teeth! You're definitely not mucking around with those seat frames. A world away from the flimsy original effort. I almost get the idea from the original seat frames that they might have been intended to deform as a safety mechanism, but modern thinking on safety involves keeping the seat and occupant firmly in place, so I think stronger frames are better. I was shocked at the amount my Beetle seat frame deformed under me when I crashed my bug, will be making up something like yours although probably a bit lighter.
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#765311
Yea, I probably coulda used 30mm box but didn't want the hassles of making one and then the engineer not being happy with it. This way there's no way it can't pass.

As for the weight, well I only weigh 65kg so the extra 20k won't make the 1200 that much slower and eventually there'll be a NA liberty motor in the back so all good me thinks ๐Ÿ™‚
madness is in the eye of the beholder ๐Ÿ‘

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#773065
So I have got the first seat frame all done and think it looks pretty good. Weighs a tonne tho ๐Ÿคช Still very sturdy ๐Ÿ˜‰



I so need a cash injection for all the parts. Just the brakes are $400 and thats without the MC. Think I'm gonna have to look for a second job ๐Ÿ˜‚
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#773067
So been busy last weekend finishing off the clearancing for the IRS g/box CV's but all done and painted now ๐Ÿ™‚






I coulda installed the g/box too but I was dumb and didn't order the selector to pan seal when I ordered the box mounts ๐Ÿ™… what a spaz. Oh well ๐Ÿ™‚

Also finished cleaning the CV joints so don't have to buy new ones now and put the leaves in the front beam to mark up for cutting down but need the seals to see exactly where to cut and drill ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

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#773105
Nice work mate! Good to see you are making some progress. Smiley ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts ยท joined Aug 2009 ยท

#773109
Havnt seen this project in a while and it is looking good.Good to see.
Good Luck.
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#773224
Cheers guys.

I'm working on a metal MC reservoir to go with my new dual circuit MC but have it being fed from the original single circuit reservoir ๐Ÿ™‚

Piccies to follow once I've got a bit further
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#777807
YAY!!! More progress ๐Ÿ™‚ Well been cleaning brake back plates and painting but kinda boring to post until it's all on the car.

What is interesting tho is that I got some welding done on the Drivers channel front. Got too late for me to grind the welds to put the top plates on but





Blew thro in a few places but quite happy with my upside down welding ๐Ÿ™‚

I also received my Golf VR6 front calipers so will picturefy them another time as if it start with the brake conversion I'll never get her on all fours by the end of winter, your summer ๐Ÿ˜‰ but still happy that I got em. Only needed em for one measurement and the narrowing of the beam is nicely adequate for the track increase ๐Ÿ˜€
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#777839
Well started to clean up the underside of the heater channels ready for painting and getting the pan re-attached but I came across this on the drivers side









So, think I'll have to have a word with mr Hookeys ๐Ÿ™‚

I doubt the repro panels over here are any better then in the UK.

Fortunately the passenger side only had one or 2 small holes so that'll be OK plus when I hoovered them out the drivers had loadsa rust and shite in it compared to the passengers.

Right washing up and then back to the garage. Ah, such an exciting Saturday nite ๐Ÿ™„
madness is in the eye of the beholder ๐Ÿ‘

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#781017
So been hacking away at things to be done but only these few pics worthy of posting as the rest is sanding,cleaning, painting and drilling spotwelds. Anyhow,









Both channels have there framehead caged mounting plates back in, just the closing plate repairs to make when get some more argon.
Otherwise, we have the solid brake lines run in lovely Kunifer, not available in QLD yet complies with the regs :confused:. Even with pipe benders it's tricky getting things right to line up but pretty happy with it ๐Ÿ˜€

Almost got the driver channel closing plate off but f**k me there are a lot of spotwelds :eek: Kills the arms but only a foot to go now.

Parents are over from mid week so probably no forward motion till after then ๐Ÿ™‚
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#787625
Do be do, more stuff done ๐Ÿ™‚

Channel lip repairs seam welded





and dressed




tricky to get at properly but happy with that. Under the heater tube ain't dressed cos its a bugger to get at.

Gearbox in with free earth cable



I got me Hookeys closing panel for the channel but having to get compensation from FedEx cos they broke the wooden shipping plank and bent the panel. Nice ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

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#787699
Mick058 wrote:getting there mate.
Cheers dude ๐Ÿ™‚ should have the body back on within a few weeks too๐Ÿ™‚
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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts ยท joined Aug 2009 ยท

#787749
YAY MORE PROGRESS.
love this thread.
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
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