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Spook Driving the 64 wheeler

1,168 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#757706
For the 2nd time in as many months the outlet pipe on my fuel pump came apart from the pump. This time though, it did catch alight.

This was a brand new fuel pump to replace one that did exactly the same thing in December.

Fortunately (for want of a better word) being the outlet once the engine was off that was the end of petrol for the fire. However there is not a great deal of anything plastic left in the engine bay, & the duco on the decklid is never going to be the same.

Always carry a fire extinguisher.
And anyone wants a fuel pump that says Made in Brazil, theres 4 in my bin. They will never be used again
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#757707
you must be using the old bolt together style fuel pump?




if you can get one of the newer pressed top design ones
they dont suffer this problem cos its all one piece
carby barb is still an issue if left stock but its once less weak link

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#757712
always fit a clamp to the fuel line on the pressure side of the pump and the inlet side of the carby

then get some tie wire and put through the clamp and around the body of the pump or carby

this stops the critters flying off when u dont want them to

event with the new pump above i would clamp and tie off as the hose could blow off as well
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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#757746
So when ordering a new fuel pump,which one are you most likely to get? I do want to keep mine original look,but is it worth it.?
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greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#757764
wpar a wier around the clamps and tie them of, it happened to me twice thet was a good and cheap fix
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djnee Officially Full-On Dubber

341 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#757770
greedy53 wrote:wpar a wier around the clamps and tie them of, it happened to me twice thet was a good and cheap fix
Yeah, i've got zip ties around mine, just in case.

Sorry to hear about the fire....glad the car survived too.
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h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#757818
yeah had this prob on several rides over the years
to remedy this I cleaned the barbs things where they inserted into the pump body and made sure they were in tight wif a lite tap with knockometer then got the trusty alildite happening n goopped the magic all about the barb base n let it go off before lines were fitted and clamps all round not just pressure side and all good no more probs
tip - clamp with proper clamps that cost sfa compared to losing ya ride from a fire just cause you wanted to save about $2.63 in the end
give that a go
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Spook Driving the 64 wheeler

1,168 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#757833
vw54 wrote:always fit a clamp to the fuel line on the pressure side of the pump and the inlet side of the carby

then get some tie wire and put through the clamp and around the body of the pump or carby

this stops the critters flying off when u dont want them to

event with the new pump above i would clamp and tie off as the hose could blow off as well
As much as I'm not gunna argue with you Dave, you shouldn't f#cken have to.

I forgave the 1st one, it had been around a while, this one I took out of the box myself. Same failure in 5 weeks, & this time it's gunna cost me.
The other thing these pumps had in common; Made in Brazil.
I got a German one in the shed sitting on a 1300 that's been happily pumping fuel since 1967 without a drama.

Start my annual leave tomorrow so I got the time & the parts to fix it.

I consider myself fortunate in that I've still got the car. Soon as I smelt the fuel I shut it down, & while the car looks like a piece, the engine bay is kept very clean. So what burned was just the plastic. No built up shit.

But I've got to wonder how many people have lost their cars to these fuel pumps being rubbish.

Ps, happened on my way to work (I'm at Newcastle now). My new nickname at work is Hot wheels. I like it
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BUGBOY Moderator Chief Toy Dude / Head Cruiser

2,147 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#758233
I have kits to rebuild the original german ones.
The pipes don't fall out of them!😂
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#758260
BUGBOY wrote:The pipes don't fall out of them!
Don't bet on it !!!


I prefer to repair, once done I've not had it recur.

I, knurl the offending loose pipe with a pair of multi-grips, then use Loctite 515 to glue it back in with a tap by a small hammer. The 515 if fuel stable, Araldite softens when warm so beware!
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cb john Wolfsburg Wizard

470 posts · joined Jun 2007 ·

#758265
Just turn a new barb with M7 thread and tap the same into pump....

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#758276
cb john wrote:Just turn a new barb with M7 thread and tap the same into pump....
M7 on original barb?
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cb john Wolfsburg Wizard

470 posts · joined Jun 2007 ·

#758277
Make a new barb...



the same applies for the fuel pump..

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#758279
Nice.

Thanks John
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cb john Wolfsburg Wizard

470 posts · joined Jun 2007 ·

#758359
M7 barbs of shelf? Very unlikely...Price of tap and die set may vary, try your local supplier. I'm not using tapered threads / M7 says it all / and Loctite never does any harm...😁

I'm making all screw connections since my first fire...😁

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#758458
Im just buying a new sealed style pump ,that way i diffidently know for sure the condition of my pump.
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