niejls Learner Dubber
8 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·
pm sent
How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive. PDF Version?
h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle
7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·
id be up for a copy pls if poss
i have an orig spiral bound 70s relic and im scared now to take it to the shed
any help would be appreciated
thanks paul
i have an orig spiral bound 70s relic and im scared now to take it to the shed
any help would be appreciated
thanks paul
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Z = Z2 + C1/r = 1/0 = infinity
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VW Workshop - aircooledgarage.com.au
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Fantasy http://seventhchronicle.com
Z = Z2 + C1/r = 1/0 = infinity
Barrels www.barrelman.com.au
VW Workshop - aircooledgarage.com.au
allcooled.com.au
eraser Fahrvergnugen
970 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
as per previous just pm me the answer and i will link you.
57 Cal look Officially Full-On Dubber
370 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
or if you just want to down load a copy off the net with out having to jump through somebodys hoop , just go to demonoid.com search for it & get it ... its on there for free for who ever wants to download it.
Aerodynamics are for people who cant build engines - Enzo Ferrari
You buy a Ferrari when you want to be somebody, you buy a Lamborghini when you are somebody - Frank Sinatra
You buy a Ferrari when you want to be somebody, you buy a Lamborghini when you are somebody - Frank Sinatra
Bookwus Seriously Crusin Dubber
120 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·
Hiya All,
I'm not at all familiar with Australian laws and regulations regarding copyrights. However I am aware that most countries do respect and abide by international agreements regarding the rights surrounding intellectual properties. The circulation of PDF copies of Muir's work does sound like a copyright infringement.
And I have had a inside view of the other side of this equation. My daughter used to work for Avalon Travel Publishing. ATP owns the rights to Muir's work. I'm seriously doubting that anybody at ATP would sanction or tolerate this. On the other hand, ATP is a publishing company that focuses on travel related literature. How they came to own "The Idiot Book" is a story in itself. Anyway, the Muir book is a bit of a stepchild in the organization. ATP really doesn't know what to do with it.
Even so, remember that you can expect to get burned if you play with fire.
I'm not at all familiar with Australian laws and regulations regarding copyrights. However I am aware that most countries do respect and abide by international agreements regarding the rights surrounding intellectual properties. The circulation of PDF copies of Muir's work does sound like a copyright infringement.
And I have had a inside view of the other side of this equation. My daughter used to work for Avalon Travel Publishing. ATP owns the rights to Muir's work. I'm seriously doubting that anybody at ATP would sanction or tolerate this. On the other hand, ATP is a publishing company that focuses on travel related literature. How they came to own "The Idiot Book" is a story in itself. Anyway, the Muir book is a bit of a stepchild in the organization. ATP really doesn't know what to do with it.
Even so, remember that you can expect to get burned if you play with fire.
eijeiy Learner Dubber
3 posts · joined May 2009 ·
hi can i have a copy of the book it'll really help me with my VW thanks
Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Just buy one second-hand on Ebay - do a search on 'VW Muir' or 'VW Idiot'. You can get one for less than $20. This will be far more useful and practical than a pirated PDF version - which you would have to print off anyway to use in your workshop. Have you priced inkjet or toner cartridges lately?
Better still, if you are a member of Club Veedub Sydney, you can borrow a copy from the club library for a month, for free.
The Muir book is ok but it's not the best manual for VWs. Buy the factory 'Bentley' manual.
Better still, if you are a member of Club Veedub Sydney, you can borrow a copy from the club library for a month, for free.
The Muir book is ok but it's not the best manual for VWs. Buy the factory 'Bentley' manual.
volumex Officially Full-On Dubber
389 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·
Mike,Bookwus wrote:Hiya All,
I'm not at all familiar with Australian laws and regulations regarding copyrights. However I am aware that most countries do respect and abide by international agreements regarding the rights surrounding intellectual properties. The circulation of PDF copies of Muir's work does sound like a copyright infringement.
And I have had a inside view of the other side of this equation. My daughter used to work for Avalon Travel Publishing. ATP owns the rights to Muir's work. I'm seriously doubting that anybody at ATP would sanction or tolerate this. On the other hand, ATP is a publishing company that focuses on travel related literature. How they came to own "The Idiot Book" is a story in itself. Anyway, the Muir book is a bit of a stepchild in the organization. ATP really doesn't know what to do with it.
Even so, remember that you can expect to get burned if you play with fire.
As a layperson untrained in law, my interpretation of the Copyright Act 1968 as amended, Section 43C it is permissable to reproduce a book [that you own - see section 1 a] for private and domestic use. In this instance providing evidence of ownership and then obtaining a single electronic copy I think meets the intent of the Act. However, just getting a freebie copy I believe is in contravention of the Act.
I don't know about the others, but I copy the relevant procedure from the book onto A4 so I can take it to my workshop to work on my bugs. This keeps my book from getting filthy and destroyed. Before I got this PDF I used to bend & shove my book on my a-i-o printer to make a photocopy of the relevant pages - which obviously causes damage to the book. Now I can just hit the print button and not shred the book. When I finish with the (by now) oil & grease covered pages, I just bin them. These copies I believe comply with Section 43B of the Act (Temporary reproductions of works as part of a technical process of use)
Mind you, if I have mis-interpreted the act then let me know and I will delete the pdf - and go back to mashing my book.
volumex Officially Full-On Dubber
389 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·
The Samba always has a few for sale. Saw one earlier today for US$12.
I haven't seen many Bentley manuals for the early 50/60's in Australia.The early manuals I have seen were the Scientific manuals (The blue cover, the green cover and what appears to be a really early brown cover one). Did the Bentley manuals come some time later?
I think for the common maintenance work, the Muir book is heaps simplier to understand and apply than the Bentley manual.Phil74Camper wrote:The Muir book is ok but it's not the best manual for VWs. Buy the factory 'Bentley' manual.
I haven't seen many Bentley manuals for the early 50/60's in Australia.The early manuals I have seen were the Scientific manuals (The blue cover, the green cover and what appears to be a really early brown cover one). Did the Bentley manuals come some time later?
Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Bentley Publishing bought the licence to print the official (US-spec) VW factory workshop manuals. I have a copy of several early 1960s factory manuals, that came in large blue snap-ring folders. The Bentley manuals were cleaned-up, re-sorted versions, published as 700-odd page soft-cover books. But they are US-based so they reproduce US-spec workshop manuals. All versions are still available, including 1952-57 Beetles, and early Kombis. Expensive, though, at $100 and I personally would NOT use them in the workshop! Great collector's items to read first, though, and keep in pristine condition on your bookshelf.
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/isbn/9780837603896/index.html
Yes the general Australian-produced manuals of the time were Scientific Publications, which later became Gregory's manuals. They were written in a very technical, almost military style - no 'hey groovy man' stuff you find in Muir. But they got the job done. We have most of them in the Club Veedub library, as shown below when I made a new cabinet to put them in.
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/isbn/9780837603896/index.html
Yes the general Australian-produced manuals of the time were Scientific Publications, which later became Gregory's manuals. They were written in a very technical, almost military style - no 'hey groovy man' stuff you find in Muir. But they got the job done. We have most of them in the Club Veedub library, as shown below when I made a new cabinet to put them in.
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Bookwus Seriously Crusin Dubber
120 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·
Hiya volume,volumex wrote:Mike,
As a layperson untrained in law, my interpretation of the Copyright Act 1968 as amended, Section 43C it is permissable to reproduce a book [that you own - see section 1 a] for private and domestic use. In this instance providing evidence of ownership and then obtaining a single electronic copy I think meets the intent of the Act. However, just getting a freebie copy I believe is in contravention of the Act.
I don't know about the others, but I copy the relevant procedure from the book onto A4 so I can take it to my workshop to work on my bugs. This keeps my book from getting filthy and destroyed. Before I got this PDF I used to bend & shove my book on my a-i-o printer to make a photocopy of the relevant pages - which obviously causes damage to the book. Now I can just hit the print button and not shred the book. When I finish with the (by now) oil & grease covered pages, I just bin them. These copies I believe comply with Section 43B of the Act (Temporary reproductions of works as part of a technical process of use)
Mind you, if I have mis-interpreted the act then let me know and I will delete the pdf - and go back to mashing my book.
Oh hey, do know that it was not my intent to rain on anybody's parade. My knowledge of international agreements pertaining to the ownership and use of intellectual materials is very likely far less than your own. As my previous post stated, I am aware that such agreements exist and Australia and the USA are very likely participants in such agreements.
I am solely coming from the position that I do not want to see anybody getting burned because they might be unaware of these agreements and the resulting potential for an unwanted and undesired surprise.
Gibbo Custom Title Time!
1,685 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
As you can see from the rest of the thread, we really appreciate this book, and are only giving the PDF version out to people who can prove they have the original book form. Like myself I consider my original too precious to have down in the garage, so I use the PDF version to print out the pages I need when doing a specific task, or when browsing on the laptop.
No one here should be using the PDF without having the original.
No one here should be using the PDF without having the original.
gr0gm Learner Dubber
5 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·
I own a hardcopy of the idiot book. is it sitll possible to get the pdf version?
0 posts · joined Jul 2008 ·
Can i get a copy
eraser Fahrvergnugen
970 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
😉eraser wrote:if you want it PM me the title of chapter XII and i will hook you up
jewelsbug Learner Dubber
2 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·
Hey I went to this site and nothing was there. Can you help?
eraser Fahrvergnugen
970 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
ok once more for the people out there who are slightly special..
If you WANT THE PDF... and HAVE THE PAPER BOOK
PM (aka Private message) me with the TITLE of CHAPTER XII
I (aka me) will then PM you a link to it.
-Marc
If you WANT THE PDF... and HAVE THE PAPER BOOK
PM (aka Private message) me with the TITLE of CHAPTER XII
I (aka me) will then PM you a link to it.
-Marc
mister_e Learner Dubber
5 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·
I recently found 68 squareback, with dellorto carbs. It has very little body rust,runs(ish) and I am happily cleaning it up. I have a rapidly deteriorating copy, and I would love to put what's left of it on the shelf... Thanks a million! This would be wonderful...
mister_e Learner Dubber
5 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·
My father has been a VW nut all my life, but this is the first squareback I have come accross, wow! these seem even simpler than the beetles!...
greezy Casual Dubber
21 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
This is possibly one of the most helpful books out there definatly helped me through some tough VW times, would love a digital copy to keep on file! PM sent!
Deispring Learner Dubber
5 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
Hey, a friend of mine and I share a copy of this book, and it would make things TERRIBLY more helpful if I had a Digital copy to look through while he had the hard copy. If this doesn't mud the "Principles" waters too much, I would love a copy of that PDF.
Cheers. 😎
Cheers. 😎
Deispring Learner Dubber
5 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
can you please send me a copy of that PDF?
donn Wolfsburg Elder
3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
How long ago was that, I received my copy in the post yesterday, all the way from UK, I was starting to get worried as I paid for it back on 18th of December but all's good now, nice and new, perhaps i should check the title of chapter 12 and apply.greedy53 wrote:i have that book tryed to sell on here nobody wanted it
I dream of a day when a chicken can cross a road without being asked for it's motive!
Deispring Learner Dubber
5 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
Whoops. Hehe here I was starting to get befuddled that nobody replied to my request for the PDF, and when I come back here to post another reply I noticed that I missed a few posts here about Chapter XII. Maybe I"m Blind, maybe I just jumped to the end of the books too quickly (Spoiler alert, Harry Lives :P) Anywho, I'll get that chapter title for ya tonight, and as this is post #5, I can PM you when I get it.
jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard
617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·
i sent you a PM.
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show
compaq1 Casual Dubber
35 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·
PM sent
Cheers
Cheers
yt400pmd Learner Dubber
6 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·
PM sent
compaq1 Casual Dubber
35 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·
Most are Probably already aware of this but here is the john Muir VW Sounds site link
http://web.archive.org/web/20071206022126/http://home.arcor.de/silke.fokken/sounds/
http://web.archive.org/web/20071206022126/http://home.arcor.de/silke.fokken/sounds/
levetto Learner Dubber
9 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·
Hey Eraser can I send you the answer to get the copy?
yt400pmd Learner Dubber
6 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·
does anyone still have the PDF ?