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Alternatives to Original 2.0L Dual Carb Filters

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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#771464
How is everyone going?
Hope you have a good easter, im having a great easter so far,i have heaps of time(raining) to get in and start stripping one of our kombi's.Whilst checking out the engine,i noticed that the dual carby's use big box style filter.Is it possible to just go back to an aftermarket filter on each carb? We were given only half of the filter box and the Kombi has no key.🤪,not the best start to a restoration engine wise.🥲

Thanks In Advance😎
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Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#771642
yep i have but for the life of me i can't remember what there of,did need to u8se a bi9t of polly pipe to make them fit but had them on or 12 months now all is ok
👍👍😂🙅🥷😬🤓

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#771710
Right....😂
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#773591
Does anyone know where we could purchase one of these systems new?
Thanks
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Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds

2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#773676
You could use aftermarket filters I suppose, but the standard VW air cleaner does a lot more than just filter the air. It also ties in with the central idling system, the air pre-heat, the carb fuel mixture balance tubing, the crankcase breather and the carb / manifold vacuum. The left-hand carb has a short pipe from the air inlet horn to the left-hand duct. If you remove it, the central idling won't work. The carb preheat sits straight onto the inlet from the motor's tinware - which will blow hot air into the engine compartment if you remove it. The two carbs are balanced by the thick balance tubing that sits under the air cleaner - it has a vacuum line off it.

VW designed it all to work properly together. Why replace an excellent VW system with a bodgy aftermarket system that won't work properly? VW knew what they were doing. It would be better, and easier, just to locate the standard VW parts you are missing.

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#773683
What parts are you missing I probably have a couple of spares ?The original system is good and hard to beat.

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#773685
Phil74Camper wrote:You could use aftermarket filters I suppose, but the standard VW air cleaner does a lot more than just filter the air. It also ties in with the central idling system, the air pre-heat, the carb fuel mixture balance tubing, the crankcase breather and the carb / manifold vacuum. The left-hand carb has a short pipe from the air inlet horn to the left-hand duct. If you remove it, the central idling won't work. The carb preheat sits straight onto the inlet from the motor's tinware - which will blow hot air into the engine compartment if you remove it. The two carbs are balanced by the thick balance tubing that sits under the air cleaner - it has a vacuum line off it.

VW designed it all to work properly together. Why replace an excellent VW system with a bodgy aftermarket system that won't work properly? VW knew what they were doing. It would be better, and easier, just to locate the standard VW parts you are missing.
GREAT POST!👍👍👍.Thanks mate,i realize that and that is why i am always so hesitant when thinking of changing original stuff.Only have half the unit at the moment,so it isnt running 100% but much better than what i thought it would.At the moment there is stuff missing ,and not in the right spot.So just to.The Dizzy Vaccum Advance goes to the filter box? Im not sure what balance tubing is or what it looks like.i noticed that it has trouble idling,so that pipe may not be on.Air pre-Heat? crankcase breather? 🤪

I know it sounds pretty bad but the person we bought it off fingered it. I mean they ran it off a jerry-can straight to the carb for a couple years becuase they thought it didnt have a fuel tank.FOR GOD SAKE😬 all that was wrong was the fuel tank fitting was missing 😂

We are only just learning about 2.0liters,they are different.lol.So all the info we get is greatly appreciated.Been trying to find a new filter box system to no avail. Would be great if we could get some type of diagram displaying where what goes,.😂

-Thanks again for your help-
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#773688
grumble wrote:What parts are you missing I probably have a couple of spares ?The original system is good and hard to beat.
Umm 🤪
OK..SO..you have the box thing in the middle
(what is it called?😂) ,then you have the two things that come off the side and go to your carbs.We are missing one of those.Not sure if you need to know left or right or they are the same.Hope that helps.
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#773690
Ok I will have an inlet tube,which side do you need,the left side has the idle hose set up on it,the right is plain. The vacuum advance goes to the left hand carby near the idle solenoid,the fuel tank breather hose goes to the top of the centre part of the filter.

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#773694
OK,just went down to the shed.We have the side which has one kinda thick plastic pipe coming from the top of it.Nothing else.So we will need the opposite to that.😂It seemed to fit the right side better,but it should be plain according to you.🤪
Hope that Helps.👍
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show

Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds

2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#773753
These are all the components from the system. Just stock-take to see which bits you're missing !

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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#773794
yeh thanks that should help.
Do you know any where to get the paper element?
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#773796
Jason Pm me with the side for the duct and I can also supply the filter element.
Thanks phil for the pics I haven't got access to this at home.

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#774254
pm sent grumble.😊
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show