just heard about this
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
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No more mexican taxi bugs
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Go the Vochos😎
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modulus Veteran Volks Folk
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Yep. The same happened in Brazil a few years ago. The beetles ("fuscas") were replaced by VW Golfs ("gols = goals") for much the same reasons.
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DylanTheDubber Custom Title Time!
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Sad is'nt it.
amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
turn them in for $1200? Pity its so far away. Would be pretty cool to have a Vocho taxi. You'd have to do something dodgy to register it, but wouldnt be hard.
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
its a shame theyre not legal on the roads here, they dont meet ADRs
a guy here in ballina has amoungst his collection a 2001 mexi bug with less than 100KMs on the clock cos it cant be reg'd in aus
a guy here in ballina has amoungst his collection a 2001 mexi bug with less than 100KMs on the clock cos it cant be reg'd in aus
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
um.... why?
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
as previously stated they dont meet the adrs therefore un-registerable with out a huge amount of work
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Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
They would probably meet all the ADRs up to about 27 - like the Aussie pre '77 Beetles did - but not most of the modern ADRs brought in since then. Beetles would fail:
ADR 29 - side door strength (intrusion protection)
ADR 34 - child restraint anchorages
ADR 42 - general safety
ADR 66 - seat mounting and anchorage
ADR 69 - front impact occupant protection
ADR 72 - dynamic side impact protection
ADR 73 - offset frontal impact protection
ADR 79 - emission controls
ADR 82 - engine immobilisers
ADR 83 - external noise
ADR 84 - front underrun protection
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/adr_online.aspx
Even with a lot of work, you could only make a Mexi Beetle meet most, not all, of these. How can you make 'crumple zones' for example? How are you going to fit airbags, which are now mandatory? The reality is, that while VW Beetles remain wonderful 'classic' and 'historic' cars, they are utterly obsolete today's modern design standards.
ADR 29 - side door strength (intrusion protection)
ADR 34 - child restraint anchorages
ADR 42 - general safety
ADR 66 - seat mounting and anchorage
ADR 69 - front impact occupant protection
ADR 72 - dynamic side impact protection
ADR 73 - offset frontal impact protection
ADR 79 - emission controls
ADR 82 - engine immobilisers
ADR 83 - external noise
ADR 84 - front underrun protection
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/adr_online.aspx
Even with a lot of work, you could only make a Mexi Beetle meet most, not all, of these. How can you make 'crumple zones' for example? How are you going to fit airbags, which are now mandatory? The reality is, that while VW Beetles remain wonderful 'classic' and 'historic' cars, they are utterly obsolete today's modern design standards.
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
Phil, its interesting that the site has ADR 27 listed as not used.
Cos my 9/74 LBug has 27 on the compliance plate, it and 28 were the 2 ADRs affected by my subaru conversion that the engineer had to OK
i know 28 was noise, but it doesnt really explain on my engineer certificate what 27 was for
Cos my 9/74 LBug has 27 on the compliance plate, it and 28 were the 2 ADRs affected by my subaru conversion that the engineer had to OK
i know 28 was noise, but it doesnt really explain on my engineer certificate what 27 was for
jsheppard64 Officially Full-On Dubber
323 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·
It'd be nice to import them as spare parts tho
local wreckers here seems to run out of vw parts pretty fast then we'd have to wait for another one to come by
local wreckers here seems to run out of vw parts pretty fast then we'd have to wait for another one to come by
amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
you'd just have to import a left hand drive 77 floorpan as well.
ryana89 Officially Full-On Dubber
315 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·
So out of all the cars in Mexico, the VW beetle pollutes more than the big 6-8 cylinder cars and other older cars?
I dunno🙅 Like whas been said, its a pity they can't be brought over to Australia (or any other country).
Would it be possible to be sneaky enough to ship one over here and get a RWC or are inspectors not that gullable🙁
Such a shame...
I dunno🙅 Like whas been said, its a pity they can't be brought over to Australia (or any other country).
Would it be possible to be sneaky enough to ship one over here and get a RWC or are inspectors not that gullable🙁
Such a shame...
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Made in Germany, Assembled in Africa, 'Migrated' to Australia
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
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Hicolonel mustard wrote:um.... why?
You need to remember that the Beetle was designed back in the 1930s...
and refined slightly over the years...
the major problem was that the crankshaft wasn't sealed behind the pulley and gases could escape easily...
You cannot lean burn fuel with a beetle as the heads and valves get too hot...
the mudguards don't really give any protection...
You really need to look at a new beetle and the old one to see what improvements needed to be made...
the reason beetles stopped being made in Mexico a few years ago, was because the mexican government made a law that all New Taxis had to have 4 doors...
and at that time most taxis were Beetles...
Now most taxis are still beetles.... lol...
so Now a New law has been introduced.....
Overall... the beetle is a vintage car that was just made too good... and lasted too long... IMHO....
LEE
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Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
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Hi Joel, yes I also noticed that ADR 27 is not used now. It was to do with emission levels. I do remember that the 27A revision for 1976 was the death of the Beetle in Australia. VWA decided that it was not worth the cost to modify the locally built car to meet the tougher requirement. So production ended in July 1976. The Kombi, and the Golf/Passat, on the other hand were able to be modified to meet ADR 27A.
Without reading every ADR in detail, it seems to me that the newer ADR 79 probably replaced ADR 27, particularly in regard to lead-free petrol and cats that were necessary from the late 1980s on.
Yes, the Mexi Beetle produces way more pollution than modern 6 and 8 cylinder cars - current Falcons and Commodores are required by law to meet the ADRs. Beetles could not meet the ADRs of 1976, let alone the ADRs of 2010. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. Stll, at least the new Mexi taxis will still be VWs - just Golfs and jettas from now on.
Without reading every ADR in detail, it seems to me that the newer ADR 79 probably replaced ADR 27, particularly in regard to lead-free petrol and cats that were necessary from the late 1980s on.
Yes, the Mexi Beetle produces way more pollution than modern 6 and 8 cylinder cars - current Falcons and Commodores are required by law to meet the ADRs. Beetles could not meet the ADRs of 1976, let alone the ADRs of 2010. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. Stll, at least the new Mexi taxis will still be VWs - just Golfs and jettas from now on.
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
from what i can gather looking at at a few websites it was to do with charcoal canisters and such
it wasnt long after my bug they started putting canisters in them.
i did put the subaru one in although the engineer said i didnt require it
funny though in the 60s vws were considered as one of the cleanest burnign engines
it wasnt long after my bug they started putting canisters in them.
i did put the subaru one in although the engineer said i didnt require it
funny though in the 60s vws were considered as one of the cleanest burnign engines
Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
True. VWs in the '50s were also regarded as being roomy, safe, fast and quiet (compared with the Morris Minors, Austin A40s and so on of the day). But they were slipping behind by the mid '60s. Our Beetle sales peaked in 1964 - US sales peaked in '68, while world Beetle sales peaked in '71. Technology moves on...
It might have been possible to keep the Aussie Beetle going for a little while, using US-style fuel injection and cat exhausts etc etc. But the minimal sales of Beetles here by then made it uneconomic. They would need to have been fully imported after 1976 anyway, since Nissan owned the factory and all VW assembly ended in early 1977. The German Beetle ended the following year. VW's future was with the Golf.
It might have been possible to keep the Aussie Beetle going for a little while, using US-style fuel injection and cat exhausts etc etc. But the minimal sales of Beetles here by then made it uneconomic. They would need to have been fully imported after 1976 anyway, since Nissan owned the factory and all VW assembly ended in early 1977. The German Beetle ended the following year. VW's future was with the Golf.
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
it would have been a wasted effort, sales still wouldnt have picked up when golf's were so much better equipped, nicer to drive and for not much more $$
Iris-the-lovebug Casual Dubber
47 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·
Such a shame.... It was maybe the only reason I'd go to Mexico lol
Maybe we should all plan a hiest... get a massive freighter and steal the Bugs to Australia!!!!!
Maybe we should all plan a hiest... get a massive freighter and steal the Bugs to Australia!!!!!
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
I was told that Mexican beetles that were sold in the Phillipines
didn't last long... only a few years...
so, a used mexican beetle wasn't worth much compared to an old German made one..
If You see cars made in the 40s 50s and 60s... [in movies]
most used to blow out blue smoke on start up and acceleration etc... Even expensive cars...
LEE
didn't last long... only a few years...
so, a used mexican beetle wasn't worth much compared to an old German made one..
If You see cars made in the 40s 50s and 60s... [in movies]
most used to blow out blue smoke on start up and acceleration etc... Even expensive cars...
LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
most people go to mexico for reasons other than vw enjoyment 😂Iris-the-lovebug wrote:Such a shame.... It was maybe the only reason I'd go to Mexico lol
bnicho Wolfsburg Wizard
436 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
I've been told Gary at Wolfsburg Automotove in Geelong has one of the last mexican Beetles. But of course, it cannot be registered. It's possible however that he may be able to register it when it turns 25 years old, on historic rego.
I dunno about VW's, but there are quite a few 90's Minis on Australian roads that somehow have the chassis number and compliance plate of an Aussie built 70's car.... 😵💫
You can now get a 97-2000 Mini on SEVS compliance, so no need for those shenanigans anymore. But at least the Mini meant EU and Japanese standards (EFI, Cat, Airbags, crash standards etc) so it's probably far easier than a Beetle to comply one.
Cheers,
I dunno about VW's, but there are quite a few 90's Minis on Australian roads that somehow have the chassis number and compliance plate of an Aussie built 70's car.... 😵💫
You can now get a 97-2000 Mini on SEVS compliance, so no need for those shenanigans anymore. But at least the Mini meant EU and Japanese standards (EFI, Cat, Airbags, crash standards etc) so it's probably far easier than a Beetle to comply one.
Cheers,
Brett Nicholson
Melbourne, Victoria
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Melbourne, Victoria
1974 VW Superbug L - Olive 😎
1971 Morris Mini Moke - Mopoke
1966 Austin Mini - Audrey
1965 Morris Mini Traveller - Trixie
2007 Land Rover Freelander 2
2009 Nissan Pathfinder