old subject i know - but surprised it wasnt done before
Well - may be it has but i didnt see it
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First time i have seen it,very funny😂
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Fibreglass batts do NOT burn....
thats what I put in My house years ago...
I didn't know that You could have had foil put in there
or I would have had that done for free... lol
I still don't understand how those installers got electricuted...
they must have been using metal staples [not legal] and not having gloves or rubber soles shoes/boots on....??
the staple gun must have put a metal staple thru a live cable
even if the metal foil was alive....
gloves and boots should have saved him...
but I forgot... He probably didn't have long pants on....??
and kneeled on the live foil...
but He still would have to earth out on something.??
LEE
thats what I put in My house years ago...
I didn't know that You could have had foil put in there
or I would have had that done for free... lol
I still don't understand how those installers got electricuted...
they must have been using metal staples [not legal] and not having gloves or rubber soles shoes/boots on....??
the staple gun must have put a metal staple thru a live cable
even if the metal foil was alive....
gloves and boots should have saved him...
but I forgot... He probably didn't have long pants on....??
and kneeled on the live foil...
but He still would have to earth out on something.??
LEE
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If you don't understand, why would you say you are right? You might offend people..
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Can someone tell me how Pete still has a job as an MP?If he was in industry, he'd be sacked long ago and probably under investigation with a view to criminal charges being laid.
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Don't get me started, I can't work out why a polly is to blame for some morons bad workmanship.cam070 wrote:Can someone tell me how Pete still has a job as an MP?If he was in industry, he'd be sacked long ago and probably under investigation with a view to criminal charges being laid.
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poor taste people have died n lost everything
maybe a fook up
but like I said poor taste
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matt i agree, it was a stimulas program that worked, it gave jobs and spent lots of cash and people got insulation in there non insulated houses. some dick head installers got it wrong and they need a scape goat!
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Exactly right Mac. it's a case of bad workmanship that killed people, how a politician is to blame is beyond me. Not all foil installations are dangerous, seems obvious.mactaylor wrote:matt i agree, it was a stimulas program that worked, it gave jobs and spent lots of cash and people got insulation in there non insulated houses. some dick head installers got it wrong and they need a scape goat!
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X2👍matberry wrote:Exactly right Mac. it's a case of bad workmanship that killed people, how a politician is to blame is beyond me. Not all foil installations are dangerous, seems obvious.
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where Krudd and Garret are to blame is that they were given first hand information from leading experts advising them of the risks and they ignored them, thus 4 deaths plus over 120 homes burnt to the ground!!
In relation to the foil insulation, they were advised how dangerous and how easy it is to "liven up" by simply putting a staple through it into power cables. In NZ, this practice was banned after a death had occurred.
Are Krudd and Garrett to blame?.....I''m sure the people that have suffered with loved ones that have passed away and those that have lost their homes can tell you in three letters
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In relation to the foil insulation, they were advised how dangerous and how easy it is to "liven up" by simply putting a staple through it into power cables. In NZ, this practice was banned after a death had occurred.
Are Krudd and Garrett to blame?.....I''m sure the people that have suffered with loved ones that have passed away and those that have lost their homes can tell you in three letters
Cheers
D
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the only thing that peter garett needs to own upto is his stupid dance skills!
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Fair comments Flintstones, didn't realise he didn't act when the dangers were brought to his attention, if that's what happened. Still essentially a workmanship issue but.....
As for dancing with the Oil's, I fell asleep at a Midnight Oil concert once.......no stupid dancing for me......I was way tired building engines late into the nights during my mid-late 90's vw drag racing ventures.😁
As for dancing with the Oil's, I fell asleep at a Midnight Oil concert once.......no stupid dancing for me......I was way tired building engines late into the nights during my mid-late 90's vw drag racing ventures.😁
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Flintstones wrote:where Krudd and Garret are to blame is that they were given first hand information from leading experts advising them of the risks and they ignored them, thus 4 deaths plus over 120 homes burnt to the ground!!
In relation to the foil insulation, they were advised how dangerous and how easy it is to "liven up" by simply putting a staple through it into power cables. In NZ, this practice was banned after a death had occurred.
Are Krudd and Garrett to blame?.....I''m sure the people that have suffered with loved ones that have passed away and those that have lost their homes can tell you in three letters
Cheers
D
Also, under the Westminster system of parliament, the relevant minister is reponsible for his departments actions. In this case, they set up a scheme that allowed companies to access the stimulus payments by providing a service of installing insulation. The department should have made sure that only acccredited companies that had passed some sort of compliance program with the dept could receive these payments. Part of that compliance would have been showing that they were capable of installing these products as well as any relevant licencing being in order. There would also need to be risk management plans in place and for the full training of all staff that do the installing.
The companies themselves that did the wrong thing are liable to face criminal prosecution but the minister/s can and should be held responsible for not overseeing these programs properly in the first place.
That is why the calls have been there for Garrett to resign but with the lack of integrity in politics, I wouldn't hold my breath. At least when Gordon Brown in the UK stepped down, he accepted the lresponsibility for the oss as being his failure. Quite rare these days.
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