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donovan Seriously Crusin Dubber

136 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#780917
I was talking to a young bloke with a 1974 s. said his beetle jumps out of reverse. all forward gears are ok. I told him i would ask the experts. any ideas???

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 ·

#780931
reverse is stuffed lol how that for an idea
reverse in vw boxes is weak could be mounts or bushes
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greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#780933
i mite be just a bit of ajustemnt under the stick loosen the 2 bolts on the base of the stick and put it into 2 nd gear and retighten it all up again
good luck
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#780960
most VWs after 73 had a very weak reverse idler gear.
It is shagged and needs total dissassembly to replace,
very common.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#781006
Mine is doing that too. Dave, can you re-build the box with an early reverse or something to strengthen it up? It is the 2nd one I have had go.
From your ole' mate Jeff

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#781040
There are aftermarket reverse gears available now that are much stronger.
Genuine VW ones are soft.
The early reverse does not fit in the late box without modification.
I have done a few, but you have to counterbore the gear which weakens it in a different way.
Been reversing a trailer up a hill!?

Rebuilding a box can be a can of worms cost-wise,
so you may want to exhaust your "used gear box" options first.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

donovan Seriously Crusin Dubber

136 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#781043
thanks for the help. looks like i will be posting an ad for a second hand gearbox in the not too distant future. what other year boxes go into a 74 s, now with a 1500 motor, not the original 1300?

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#781239
Dave, good guess about reversing the trailer 🙂

Sounds like I will have to start saving.
From your ole' mate Jeff

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#781248
donovan wrote:thanks for the help.
looks like i will be posting an ad for a second hand gearbox in the not too distant future.
what other year boxes go into a 74s, now with a 1500 motor, not the original 1300?
Hi

so He has a 1974 NON Super beetle with a 1500 engine..

any 12 volt swing axle gearbox from 1968 to 1974..
will do the job...

diff ratio will probably be the same...

and from an earlier model may be better... aka 1968-69-70..

cheers

LEE

..
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#781249
the other reason beetles jump out of reverse is a badly worn or misaligned lock out plate under the bottom of the gearshifter...

there is supposed to be Moly grease in the bottom to lubricate when changing gears...
but they are a bit like tow balls...
no one greases them... lol

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

donovan Seriously Crusin Dubber

136 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#781361
I mean i will be posting an ad on his behalf(it really isnt mine) haha

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#781374
might wanna find out what model bug it actually is, super or standard cos they use totally different boxes

if it was a 1300 originally then it would be a swing axle

if you use a 68-72 the nose cone will need swapping over.

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#783540
I had the same thing happen to an old square but it was first that jumped. changed the box then took apart the blown one.
total destruction! main pinion bearing failed and the rollers ground though the side of first gear and just about cut the outer part of the gears off the center hub bit.
also bits of metal was everywhere and broke off teeth on all the gears.

cause>> damaged flange cup seal, leaked all the oil out which blew the bearing.

sigh! some times you get the fail after it was set to go off by the previous owner.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE