Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
I think the problem i have is the empi8 spokes only come in 5 1/2 inch, whats the least size tyres i can put on them?
what size tyres do you run on your Bug
bnicho Wolfsburg Wizard
436 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
You should be able to run a 165R15 on a 5.5 inch rim. If I recall correctly, the max rim you can safely put a 165 on is a six inch rim.
I've ran 165/70R13 on 5.5 inch rims for years (not on a VW though)
Cheers,
I've ran 165/70R13 on 5.5 inch rims for years (not on a VW though)
Cheers,
Brett Nicholson
Melbourne, Victoria
1974 VW Superbug L - Olive 😎
1971 Morris Mini Moke - Mopoke
1966 Austin Mini - Audrey
1965 Morris Mini Traveller - Trixie
2007 Land Rover Freelander 2
2009 Nissan Pathfinder
Melbourne, Victoria
1974 VW Superbug L - Olive 😎
1971 Morris Mini Moke - Mopoke
1966 Austin Mini - Audrey
1965 Morris Mini Traveller - Trixie
2007 Land Rover Freelander 2
2009 Nissan Pathfinder
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
thats great news as i dont want to car to look chunky, thanks for the infobnicho wrote:You should be able to run a 165R15 on a 5.5 inch rim. If I recall correctly, the max rim you can safely put a 165 on is a six inch rim.
I've ran 165/70R13 on 5.5 inch rims for years (not on a VW though)
Cheers,
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
The challenge now is too find a brand of tyre that meets both front and rear specs
The Falken series has a 15 X 195 X V65 and a 15 X 175 X V60 but no 15 X165 X V60.
I checked Michellin and they dont have anything close, not sure of any other brand I will keep searching
The Falken series has a 15 X 195 X V65 and a 15 X 175 X V60 but no 15 X165 X V60.
I checked Michellin and they dont have anything close, not sure of any other brand I will keep searching
modulus Veteran Volks Folk
2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
Hi Paul,
What basis are you using for your decision-making process? Are you looking for best ride, best handling/braking, economy, or some particular fashionable look that you want to achieve?
If you can sort that out, you will quickly find an optimal solution and make it work, much faster than just random number generating.
hth
What basis are you using for your decision-making process? Are you looking for best ride, best handling/braking, economy, or some particular fashionable look that you want to achieve?
If you can sort that out, you will quickly find an optimal solution and make it work, much faster than just random number generating.
hth
DubCrazy Custom Title Time!
1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
71 with ajusters fitted to beam with 195/65/15 on rear and 185/15/15's on front. Lowered as much as possible with out rubbing (about 2 mm of front guards) but bloody stiff as on front, rear was standard height with stiffer dampers.
I loved the raked look, can't see it really on the grass(at one of the bujams) but it was great. The biggest down side apart from the stiffness of the front was if pushed during cornering the front coped brilliantly the back struggled and would want to break free. it wasn't built for corners speed so i wasn't to worried.
Have to say tho it wouldn't be anygood here on QLD's roads as i it wouldn't get up 90% of the driveways 🤓
steff..............................
I loved the raked look, can't see it really on the grass(at one of the bujams) but it was great. The biggest down side apart from the stiffness of the front was if pushed during cornering the front coped brilliantly the back struggled and would want to break free. it wasn't built for corners speed so i wasn't to worried.
Have to say tho it wouldn't be anygood here on QLD's roads as i it wouldn't get up 90% of the driveways 🤓
steff..............................
Life with out a v-dub is no life at all!!!!!
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
I am really looking for that raked look with the front end slightly lower than the rear. I really dont want a narrowed beam and at this stage installing drop spindles hence not too wide tyres on the front. If I can stay with 165 it should keep the steering light and not rub on the guards with the drop spindlesmodulus wrote:Hi Paul,
What basis are you using for your decision-making process? Are you looking for best ride, best handling/braking, economy, or some particular fashionable look that you want to achieve?
If you can sort that out, you will quickly find an optimal solution and make it work, much faster than just random number generating.
hth
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
That the look i like, yours looks great, what size is your front tyre V65 or V60?DubCrazy wrote:71 with ajusters fitted to beam with 195/65/15 on rear and 185/15/15's on front. Lowered as much as possible with out rubbing (about 2 mm of front guards) but bloody stiff as on front, rear was standard height with stiffer dampers.
I loved the raked look, can't see it really on the grass(at one of the bujams) but it was great. The biggest down side apart from the stiffness of the front was if pushed during cornering the front coped brilliantly the back struggled and would want to break free. it wasn't built for corners speed so i wasn't to worried.
Have to say tho it wouldn't be anygood here on QLD's roads as i it wouldn't get up 90% of the driveways 🤓
steff..............................
DubCrazy Custom Title Time!
1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
ooops put 15 15 lol.... it was a 60 on the front, you can see the rake a bit better in these two pics.
steff...............
steff...............
Life with out a v-dub is no life at all!!!!!
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
thanks thats exactly the look I'm looking for. i have spent the last hour looking at different brand tyre sizes and the closest I can get by sticking to one tyre is the Falken ZE912
195 x 65 x 15 for the rear
175 x 60 x 15 for the front
I'd prefer 165 x 60 x 15 for the front but i just cant find one that also has a 195 x 65 x 15
195 x 65 x 15 for the rear
175 x 60 x 15 for the front
I'd prefer 165 x 60 x 15 for the front but i just cant find one that also has a 195 x 65 x 15
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Paulc1964au wrote:The challenge now is too find a brand of tyre that meets both front and rear specs
The Falken series has a 15 X 195 X V65 and a 15 X 175 X V60 but no 15 X165 X V60.
I checked Michellin and they dont have anything close, not sure of any other brand I will keep searching
Hi Paul
Why do You want the same profile on the rear???
I don't think it would make any difference, especially on how You want it to look... IMHO..
I had 205s on the rear [not low profile]
and 185s on the front [not low profile]
165 80 15 are a bit too big on front... [645mm diameter]
when I had the front suspension lowered
the ride was rough as...
and the tyres would rub on the front guard lip..
I would rather have 155s.. they are still available in the USA.. Michelins etc..
I now have it so it doesn't rub unless I hit a big bump when turned slightly..
but somehow.... the ride is MUCH much better...
I may have adjusted the top torsion bar more than the lower one ??
I also have gone back to oil shocks...
slightly shorter than the standard ones I had on...
which were too long with the front lowered..
I was looking at;
205 x 60 x 15 for the rear = 627mm diameter
205 x 70 x 15 yoko a drive = 668mm diameter
LEE
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Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
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Lee, not sure what you mean i am going for a lower profile on front but will stick to V65 on the rear which is about the same as standard so as not too effect the revs on the car
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi Paul,
205 x 70 x 15 tyres will reduce Your engine revs
which is what I would like...
as My semi auto diff is 4.375 to one...
same as 1200 manuals
other manuals are 4.125 to one
and the L bug or 1303 is 3.88 to one...
so You save money on petrol by having larger diameter tyres..
and You engine is happier too.. revving less..
I know You are primarily looking at stance...
and the front tyres not rubbing...
cheers
LEE
PS: Many beetle owners instal 1303 or L beetle gearboxes so their engine doesn't rev so much... at 100 or 110KMH..etc
205 x 70 x 15 tyres will reduce Your engine revs
which is what I would like...
as My semi auto diff is 4.375 to one...
same as 1200 manuals
other manuals are 4.125 to one
and the L bug or 1303 is 3.88 to one...
so You save money on petrol by having larger diameter tyres..
and You engine is happier too.. revving less..
I know You are primarily looking at stance...
and the front tyres not rubbing...
cheers
LEE
PS: Many beetle owners instal 1303 or L beetle gearboxes so their engine doesn't rev so much... at 100 or 110KMH..etc
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
theres only about 50rpm difference at 100km/h between a 3.88 Lbug box and an Sbug/1500 4.125
Lbugs have a taller 4th because of the shorter diff
just allows for better accleration but good cruising speed
you dont wanna slow the revs too much from stock otherwise you end up with heat issues cos the engines loaded up more and the fans spinning slower
stock gearing was setup for a balance of economy and power
Lbugs have a taller 4th because of the shorter diff
just allows for better accleration but good cruising speed
you dont wanna slow the revs too much from stock otherwise you end up with heat issues cos the engines loaded up more and the fans spinning slower
stock gearing was setup for a balance of economy and power
bnicho Wolfsburg Wizard
436 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
My L is running new (but fairly crap) SONAR brand 165/80R15 tyres.
When my speedo reads 100km/h I am actualy doing 98 on the GPS. I'm pleased with how accurate the speedo is!
When my speedo reads 100km/h I am actualy doing 98 on the GPS. I'm pleased with how accurate the speedo is!
Brett Nicholson
Melbourne, Victoria
1974 VW Superbug L - Olive 😎
1971 Morris Mini Moke - Mopoke
1966 Austin Mini - Audrey
1965 Morris Mini Traveller - Trixie
2007 Land Rover Freelander 2
2009 Nissan Pathfinder
Melbourne, Victoria
1974 VW Superbug L - Olive 😎
1971 Morris Mini Moke - Mopoke
1966 Austin Mini - Audrey
1965 Morris Mini Traveller - Trixie
2007 Land Rover Freelander 2
2009 Nissan Pathfinder
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
I did a comparison with the existing tyres and wheels and V65 x 15 inch is the same in diameter hence i am sticking with the same diameter tyreson the rear and slightl ysmaller on the front
AUSSIE_MICK Officially Full-On Dubber
205 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
Hi Paul
If you are still unsure as to what size wheels to use come over to my palce and try my wheels on, i have two different lots you can try.
Mick
If you are still unsure as to what size wheels to use come over to my palce and try my wheels on, i have two different lots you can try.
Mick
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
Thnaks for the offer Mick but are they 5 or 4 stud? mine are 4 stud
AUSSIE_MICK Officially Full-On Dubber
205 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
5 stud mate!
Jack Schit Casual Dubber
22 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·
Congrats on your decision. Now stop procrastinating and just do it. 👍Paulc1964au wrote:I did a comparison with the existing tyres and wheels and V65 x 15 inch is the same in diameter hence i am sticking with the same diameter tyreson the rear and slightl ysmaller on the front
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
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Congrats on your decision. Now stop procrastinating and just do it. 👍 [/quote]
LOl I am not procrastinating I am waiting on the wheels to arrive which wont be until july.
Congrats on your decision. Now stop procrastinating and just do it. 👍 [/quote]
LOl I am not procrastinating I am waiting on the wheels to arrive which wont be until july.
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
Picked up my wheels from rod Penrose yesterday (thanks Rod for the great deal)
I am now thinking of 195 / 65 for the rear and 175/65 for the front or 165/65 if i can get them. Will take a photo of the American Eagle 8 spokes and post
I am now thinking of 195 / 65 for the rear and 175/65 for the front or 165/65 if i can get them. Will take a photo of the American Eagle 8 spokes and post
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
here is the rim can't wait to install them
sander288 "Bolt-on Master"
1,404 posts · joined Aug 2008 ·
http://www.rimsntires.com/rt_specs.jsp
Best wheel calculator, got it off Germanlook.net
Good luck with deciding the tyres.. I still struggle to choose and never really go through with any of them...
Best wheel calculator, got it off Germanlook.net
Good luck with deciding the tyres.. I still struggle to choose and never really go through with any of them...
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
Thanks I ended up going with Falken tyres rear 195/65 and fronts 175/65 will post some pics after i have them installed on Saturday
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
Had the wheels and tyres fitted today they look awesome. I am glad with the tyre selection and sizes, the only issue I have is the rear right suspension has sagged and is only just clear of the tyre. Rosie will be going to RAW this week for the drop spindles and have the rear suspension adjusted.
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
I have lowered the front with adjusters..
the front was too low and too hard to start with so I adjusted the top adjuster more which put the front up more so the tyres didn;t rub on the guards when turning and hitting a bump at the same time..
the front is also now much softer.... Great...
I also tried gas shocks on the front but they were much too hard
and now have shorter oil shocks....
gas pressurised shocks will push the front up too...
where gas shocks don't push it up...
just sit there... lol
LEE
the front was too low and too hard to start with so I adjusted the top adjuster more which put the front up more so the tyres didn;t rub on the guards when turning and hitting a bump at the same time..
the front is also now much softer.... Great...
I also tried gas shocks on the front but they were much too hard
and now have shorter oil shocks....
gas pressurised shocks will push the front up too...
where gas shocks don't push it up...
just sit there... lol
LEE
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
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Your car looks great....
apart from the front being way too high...lol
EXCELLENT
LEE
apart from the front being way too high...lol
EXCELLENT
LEE
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Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
I agree but it wont be like that for long 🙂68AutoBug wrote:Your car looks great....
apart from the front being way too high...lol
EXCELLENT
LEE
Paulc1964au Custom Title Time!
1,627 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·
Just an update, Rosie is back at RAW getting gas shocks installed on the front, hopefully to raise the front slightly or at least stopping the front from sagging.
I had three adults on the car and two kids and the front tyres scrubbed badly. Adam will check the camber as well if the tyres are still too close i may have to narrow the beam.
I had three adults on the car and two kids and the front tyres scrubbed badly. Adam will check the camber as well if the tyres are still too close i may have to narrow the beam.