Okay I know the VIN post has been done to death, but I have a question regarding the second number. My VIN is 106 xxx xxx . Which indicates a 1966 type 1. But what does the 0 mean ? all the info I have seen on numbers shows 116 xxx xxx, I read somewhere that it had something to do with whether it was standard or deluxe, is that right? Any help on this would be appreciated. Cheers Todd 😀
is the car a Beetle ??
It's probly a 196 meening an aussie built 66. If not and the 0 stands maybe it's an import but i have'nt herd of a 10x xxx xxx
To be honest Ive taken the numbers from the rego label. I need to pull the seat to check it, will keep you posted.
never trust the rego papers
atleast 3 of my vws have had errors in the the chassis number or engine capacities
my Lbug was sold and classed as a 75 and was registered as one till it was swaped to NSW rego and got changed to 74 just cos thats what it says on the compliance plate
It often depends when it was first registered ..sounds weird i know, but I have encountered that a few times ...
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One of our L bugs said the engine capacity was 181.0 cc lol and it was a 1600 TP.
yeah i dont know what that means but its what 2 of my supers said as well
hmmm maybe its 181 cubic inch hi performance model 😂
I guess it all depends who inputs the information onto the computer at the time.
umm dont mean to be noobish i know this would have been said already so sorry
where can i get the VIN no for my 1972 super beetle cause there is'nt one on the conpliance plate so what number do i use?😵💫
under back seat on the tunnel near the inspection plate for the gear shift
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yep never trust the redgo papers
Like Joel ive had several over the years that were typos and to get them changed its a task
yeah thats the chasis number though so because mines pre VIN i use that instead?
chassis number IS the VIN.... same thing ....
cheers Todd 😀
wow i feel relly dum right now
I read somewhere there is a site that gives birthday certificates based on the chassis number has anybody used the site and have a link?
its on the samba the one your talking bout not sure of the name.
But my rego papers say that mines a 171.0 engine capacity.
I wish it was.
The birth certificate thing has been around awhile - you used to have to write to the Museum in Wolfsburg but eventually they farmed the work out.
They don't really work for Australian-sold cars after 1960 or so, as our cars were locally manufactured and the German factory (and the Samba) will have no details of what Clayton did with any given chassis number. Especially after 1966, when we used the 19y nnnnnnn chassis number (9 for Australia), they don't even recognise that and will say the number is invalid.
After 1968 we went back to CKD kits, so the numbers are valid again, but they will have no info on delivery dates, colour and trim combos (Nissan paint colours etc) that the Melbourne factory applied.
By all means apply for one - they are nice novelties - but take the info supplied (if any) with a grain of salt.
Phil74Camper wrote:They don't really work for Australian-sold cars after 1960 or so, as our cars were locally manufactured and the German factory (and the Samba) will have no details of what Clayton did with any given chassis number. Especially after 1966, when we used the 19y nnnnnnn chassis number (9 for Australia), they don't even recognise that and will say the number is invalid.
After 1968 we went back to CKD kits, so the numbers are valid again, but they will have no info on delivery dates, colour and trim combos (Nissan paint colours etc) that the Melbourne factory applied.
By all means apply for one - they are nice novelties - but take the info supplied (if any) with a grain of salt.
I wrote to VW Germany with my query regarding the history of my '65 Clayton built beetle, and they gave me the build date of the chassis and when it was shipped to Australia. They didn't acknowledge the engine number though. I guess they couldn't verify which engine went with which vehicle built.
At least VW Germany were more helpful than VW Australia who don't acknowledge the pre-2000 beetles at all.
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is!
No, as we've said, today's Volkswagen Group Australia has only been in existence since 2001. They know nothing at all about the Australian manufacture up to 1968 - and very little about what went on here until 2000. Then again, I guess you can't blame them. VW Australasia went out of business in 1968. LNC Industries went out of business in 1987. Ateco Industries lost the VW franchise in 1990. TKM was taken over by Inchcape in 1993 and lost the VW franchise in 2000.
The chassis build date, and the 'shipping date to Australia' that VW Germany gave you, refers to when the batch of chassis numbers were assigned to the Melbourne factory - NOT when your car was built in Clayton.
chippy wrote:chassis number IS the VIN.... same thing ....
cheers Todd 😀
Functionally correct, but a chassis number is not strictly speaking a VIN. VIN's started around 1981, and consisted of a fixed format.
The Beetle chassis number is just a sequential production number.
For some mind number reading, have a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_Identification_Number.
Yes the old chassis numbers, and today's VIN, do the same job - uniquely identify each vehicle. The VIN is just like the old chassis number, but with a lot more information added.
Volkswagen began using the VIN system in 1980. It certainly seems mind-numbing when you first see them, but really they are straight-forward. A VIN is 17 digits, and a typical VW one looks like this:
WVWZZZ1KZAW012345
The first three digits - WVW - means Germany, Volkswagen. Digits 4-6 are ZZZ - filler digits, and mean nothing on Australian-import VWs.
Digits 7-8 tell you what model it is - in this example, 1K is a Mk6 Golf. Each VW model has a unique two-digit code - for example, 17 for a Mk1 Golf; 25 for a T3 Kombi; 3A for a Passat; 53 for a Scirocco; 70 for a T4 Kombi, etc etc. You could consider it the VW 'type', although VW doesn't use that description any more.
Digit 9 is another filler digit that means nothing.
Digit 10 is the year model. This began with A for 1980; B for 1981, C for 1982, etc etc, up to Y for 2000 (they skipped letters I, O, Q, U and Z) Then 1 for 2001, 2 for 2002 etc up to 2009. Then it starts again - A for 2010, B for 2011 - etc.
Digit 11 tells you where it was made. W is Wolfsburg; E is Emden; M is Mexico, U is South Africa (Uitenhage). There are a few others as well.
Then the last six digits are a sequential 'chassis number' like before.
You can easily see the VIN on new VWs, by lifting up the passenger windscreen wiper and looking underneath at the front of the dash.
splitting hairs ..... :S
Splitting hairs, indeed.
