most hp with vw heads

typethreeking Wolfsburg Wizard

621 posts · joined May 2008 · 6 Jun 2010, 3:46 pm

#783207

who knows what the highest horsepower engine combo is with vw heads in australia( either n/a or other)??

BEING ASPIRATED FEELS GREAT BUT BEING BLOWN TAKES THING TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL....

RAZ34 Seriously Crusin Dubber

119 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 6 Jun 2010, 6:16 pm

#783247

I'll sell them to you Troy.

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Jun 2010, 6:23 pm

#783255

😁... and the rest of the engine?

Reub

RAZ34 Seriously Crusin Dubber

119 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 6 Jun 2010, 6:30 pm

#783257

Gee your fast Reubs. You know the rules , firsts dibs to you on anything I sell.

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Jun 2010, 6:33 pm

#783258

👍 hahaha... cheers dude. We all know you're not about to sell anything though 😉

Reub

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 6 Jun 2010, 6:33 pm

#783259

I was going to say RR's,
but Rene in adelaide has a set that made 200 at the flywheel on 2387cc.
They had the exhaust guide moved over to allow a 48mm intake valve in there.

Yes they were for sale last time I asked,(no valves.... they were Ti and robbed fo his new heads))
but are only 040 castings from memory.
.... but despite claims to the contrary,
the 040 and 043 castings can work ,and seal up fine, on 94 bores.

I made about 275hp on my 1775cc blower engine, with 043s (127mph@1750 or so),
and wallys turbocharged engine made more usable power,(no blower losses) with my old 40x35, 044s

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jun 2010, 7:05 pm

#783273

i would WANT 044 as theres more meat up in the chamber area and they will last longer
rather than the 040 or 043s

I have the 044s on my daily driver and no probs with heat disipation

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 6 Jun 2010, 7:56 pm

#783290

dangerous wrote:.... but despite claims to the contrary,
the 040 and 043 castings can work ,and seal up fine, on 94 bores.

Yep no probs machining 043's "out" for 94 bores, just dont go "down" ! Great for strokers or blown motors, useless if you want good compression on a smaller motor.😎

you can go deeper using the 040's.

Troy is the question relating to "stock VW heads" or to highly modified heads that started out being stock VW ?

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jun 2010, 8:03 pm

#783293

yeah so STOCK heads dont give u horsepower dont waste yr money
start with something that can be up graded 044s

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

typethreeking Wolfsburg Wizard

621 posts · joined May 2008 · 6 Jun 2010, 8:45 pm

#783313

this topic was brought up in conversation the other day and was just wondering what power people had made starting with a stock vw head and modifying them to whatever they wanted to make power. o44 are still the same as a stock in shape, unlike comp eliiminators and the like if you know what i mean

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STOCK Wolfsburg Wizard

446 posts · joined Apr 2008 · 7 Jun 2010, 2:51 pm

#783409

WESTI 👍230HP @ WHEELS N/A ON 044'S

🤘
STOCK

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 · 7 Jun 2010, 5:21 pm

#783428

According to calculations on paper westi should be making around 216-220HP with that head, valve, displacement combo.
230HP is a true testament of westi's workmanship and ability to seriously push the boundaries in the NA vw scene, not surprising if you guys get more out of the heads.
rock on.

bitten by the bug..........several times

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 7 Jun 2010, 5:39 pm

#783434

What's westi's best time/mph and weight?

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2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 · 7 Jun 2010, 8:27 pm

#783475

I think it depends on who has the biggest packet of alloy welding rods lol to weld em up lol

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 7 Jun 2010, 9:03 pm

#783492

Westi's are unwelded I believe.

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reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 7 Jun 2010, 11:15 pm

#783516

matberry wrote:Westi's are unwelded I believe.

Reub

modulus Veteran Volks Folk

2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 8 Jun 2010, 4:32 pm

#783609

Hi Reub,
I think I may have spotted the cause of your recent engine woes.....

hth

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reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 8 Jun 2010, 8:38 pm

#783680

modulus wrote:Hi Reub,
I think I may have spotted the cause of your recent engine woes.....

hth

LOL... that's Westi's head dude...😂
Mind you, it is in the same context, like throwing $'s away...

Reub

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 8 Jun 2010, 9:28 pm

#783691

reub wrote:
modulus wrote:Hi Reub,
I think I may have spotted the cause of your recent engine woes.....

hth
LOL... that's Westi's head dude...😂
Mind you, it is in the same context, like throwing $'s away...

😂.............you need another 19,999 coins dude !

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 8 Jun 2010, 10:48 pm

#783729

in 2006 I took a stock pair of 2 litre type-4 heads and modified them for my turbo oval . There was a considerable amount of welding and porting perfomed on the heads , 50x41mm titanium valves fitted on ally-bronze valve seats and the results were as follows .
360bhp @ the rear wheels on 24psi boost.....
These heads are still in good condition and are about to be fitted to my sports sedan , to make way for the new combo going into the oval .

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 9 Jun 2010, 8:49 am

#783746

Crikey Wayne.....they're HUGE 🙂

Looks like a hole in one

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Dasdubber DAS Resto Haus

5,746 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Jun 2010, 3:04 pm

#783795

Wow Wayne, how did you go with the pushrod tubes around the stub pipes - must have been very tight?

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typethreeking Wolfsburg Wizard

621 posts · joined May 2008 · 9 Jun 2010, 5:17 pm

#783822

hey wayne, whats the new combo for the oval???

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 9 Jun 2010, 6:07 pm

#783834

typethreeking wrote:hey wayne, whats the new combo for the oval???

Can I have a wild guess.??......type IV about 2.7 with Pauter T 1 style heads....

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hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 9 Jun 2010, 6:39 pm

#783837

Dasdubber wrote:Wow Wayne, how did you go with the pushrod tubes around the stub pipes - must have been very tight?

the secret to maximum exhaust flow through my stub pipes was to flatten the exhaust tube into an oval shape and then modify/flat-spot the pushrod tubes to fit with the stub pipes .
when I assemble this engine the exhaust stub pipes must be fitted to the heads before fitting the pushrod tubes . Its all tight , but works really well and I was turning the 2868ml engine to 8200rpm and was not uncommon to see 8600rpm .

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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 9 Jun 2010, 7:44 pm

#783858

he hears that all the time

matberry wrote:Crikey Wayne.....they're HUGE 🙂

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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 11 Jun 2010, 1:13 am

#784129

I hear Hermann (here in WA) is making an estimated 450 with his turbo TIV ragtop.... It was closer to 500 (South African dyno!) in its last guise, but he dropped the comp and did a little more headwork when he fitted it into his Bug.... Stock 2ltr bottom-end so he tells us too.... 😵

Hopefully get him on a dyno sometime soon...

FUCH your early!

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2443TT Fahrvergnugen

962 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 11 Jun 2010, 5:23 pm

#784229

CB 044 castings un ported with 87mm bore on a 1641. Made 165 rwhp and 746nm of torque (3rd gear run)to the tyes with my first turbo vw motor.

The same motor run up naturally aspirated with a pair of 40 IDF webbers made 36 rwhp in 4th gear.

Really shows how heads is where the power is, and nothing overcomes flow restrictions like a boost does.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 11 Jun 2010, 6:31 pm

#784245

2443TT wrote:Made 165 rwhp and 746nm of torque....

That's just madness!!!!!!!

FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 · 16 Jun 2010, 2:04 pm

#785149

2443TT wrote:CB 044 castings un ported with 87mm bore on a 1641. Made 165 rwhp and 746nm of torque

Thats awesome power dude... what was the boost pressure and what type of fuel used ? that is the best horsepower I have ever heard of from a 1641 engine...well done!!

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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)