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1500S · 2010-06-18T03:59:08+00:00

Thought we may as well put some more info here as a few of our Veedubber clan have requested "the differences" between the German import 1500S of 1964 to 1965 and the locally produced 1965 only Australian built one. Adam (Empi) has listed some of them but here are some pics to make things a bit clearer. Me being fanatical on them?? Not really but after seeing write-ups during th mid 60s in "Safer Motoring" mags it always seemed to be "the pinnacle" of the Type 3 range. As Joel points out, The later ones handle much better than the early ones, even the magic 1969 model with the newer rear end but with the better looking 😂 shape had the smaller discs up front. However, the interest is in saving a model rather than any handling issues, just as many have saved the 'orrible Ovals and splittie Kombis 😂 If you think you have an imported 1500 S or think you know where one is in a paddock somewhere quietly rusting away, maybe it's time either to save it or at least get the trim parts to make a look-a-like one. By the way, this isn't a look-a-like! It is a fair dinkum around March 1964 German import 1500s. When I bought it, it didn't have the pushbutton switch but as I had it it went to good use. Production wise, it just missed out on it. For the same year time of production here in OZ, many dashes had the transition plastic fill plate so the later switches could be fitted. DH

Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 · 22 Jun 2010, 9:33 pm

#786397

1500S wrote:
empi wrote:Oh dont get him started!!!! NOS type 3 unobtainium .... i think Dyno may have some of that too.......🥷
A milling machine gets that shape notch in rather quick.

With my NOS stuff it's only NOS until it gets put on the car to use! We're only on this earth for a good time, not a long time so not much use hoarding stuff for the offspring to throw in the dump. 😂😂😂

Mind you Adam, I have two NOS up to 1963 Type 3 front left brake slaves. Do you have any use for them? If so I'll send them down with someone from Melbourne if they are at Valla.

DH

That is exactly right, but I hate seaching for things when I need them, so I plan ahead a little!!

Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 · 5 Jul 2010, 11:51 pm

#788829

What about some of those very rare 1963 1500S PDSIT carbs? Anybody have some pics of those...?

here are some pics of a pair which are getting some love from me atm....Previously trashed, written off, ordinarily unsaveable by any carb shop standards in this country, they are coming together nicely, will be better than NOS in terms of longevity and clearances and will look the part on a certain domed piston 1500S motor currently being built.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jul 2010, 12:19 am

#788835

YIKES..

Excellent work there...

they look great....

LEE

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1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 · 6 Jul 2010, 7:59 pm

#788972

Dyno wrote:What about some of those very rare 1963 1500S PDSIT carbs? Anybody have some pics of those...?

here are some pics of a pair which are getting some love from me atm....Previously trashed, written off, ordinarily unsaveable by any carb shop standards in this country, they are coming together nicely, will be better than NOS in terms of longevity and clearances and will look the part on a certain domed piston 1500S motor currently being built.

Father Dyno!!🥲 I must confess! In a clean-up last year I used my original PDSIT 32 carbs as land fill. I looked at them quite a bit over the years but decided to use the later ones still rather than spend the time reconditioning them. Ah well, it makes yours more valuable now! 😂

What are you going to use the S engine in? Keep your eye out for a set of NOS 83 bore cyls for my domies!

DH

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 6 Jul 2010, 8:16 pm

#788978

lol same here. I had a few and i dumped them all as I didn't have any use for them.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 · 6 Jul 2010, 10:47 pm

#789035

1500S wrote:
Dyno wrote:What about some of those very rare 1963 1500S PDSIT carbs? Anybody have some pics of those...?

here are some pics of a pair which are getting some love from me atm....Previously trashed, written off, ordinarily unsaveable by any carb shop standards in this country, they are coming together nicely, will be better than NOS in terms of longevity and clearances and will look the part on a certain domed piston 1500S motor currently being built.

Father Dyno!!🥲 I must confess! In a clean-up last year I used my original PDSIT 32 carbs as land fill. I looked at them quite a bit over the years but decided to use the later ones still rather than spend the time reconditioning them. Ah well, it makes yours more valuable now! 😂

What are you going to use the S engine in? Keep your eye out for a set of NOS 83 bore cyls for my domies!

DH

They're not my carbs!! Just sorting them out.

empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 7 Jul 2010, 5:53 pm

#789144

Ay Dyno, any numbers or pics of a dizzy 4 an Aussie 12/64 built 1500s???

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Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 · 8 Jul 2010, 12:47 am

#789232

empi wrote:Ay Dyno, any numbers or pics of a dizzy 4 an Aussie 12/64 built 1500s???

If your engine number is between 255001-633329, the distributor will be 341 905 205(bosch zv/jcu 4r3). I have a pic of that one in one of these 1500S threads and it is an svda cast iron dizzy that is almost identical in appearance to a 36 horse dizzy.To be quite honest with you, I have never seen an Australian "s" built before August 1964 and every "s" this early that I have seen have been imports. From engine number 633330(August 1964 build), the twin carb motor will have VW 311 905 205D or VW 311 905 205E. It looks like the beetle zv ju4r3, is a full vac distributor(no mechanical advance), has a large vacuum can(not like the single carb small cans) and will have 2 advance springs holding the breaker plate(one at the vac can arm and one under the breaker plate). The standard single carb Zv ju4r3 has only one advance spring.

1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 · 8 Jul 2010, 10:32 am

#789271

Dyno wrote:
empi wrote:Ay Dyno, any numbers or pics of a dizzy 4 an Aussie 12/64 built 1500s???
If your engine number is between 255001-633329, the distributor will be 341 905 205(bosch zv/jcu 4r3). I have a pic of that one in one of these 1500S threads and it is an svda cast iron dizzy that is almost identical in appearance to a 36 horse dizzy.To be quite honest with you, I have never seen an Australian "s" built before August 1964 and every "s" this early that I have seen have been imports. From engine number 633330(August 1964 build), the twin carb motor will have VW 311 905 205D or VW 311 905 205E. It looks like the beetle zv ju4r3, is a full vac distributor(no mechanical advance), has a large vacuum can(not like the single carb small cans) and will have 2 advance springs holding the breaker plate(one at the vac can arm and one under the breaker plate). The standard single carb Zv ju4r3 has only one advance spring.

There were no Australian 1500S cars built before August 1964 (well maybe a month or so for stock). Would have been the standard N body with the minimal trim change (seats and door cards) and the twin carbs put onto the standard 7.8:1 engine. We only had the 1965 Australian S. "The only info I have on the 65 OZ S dizzy is Bosch 311 905 205D

DH

empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 8 Jul 2010, 10:48 am

#789274

Cheers fellas, just needed to know if the dizzy i took out was the OG one (NOPE!) or not.

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Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 · 8 Jul 2010, 9:03 pm

#789400

empi wrote:Cheers fellas, just needed to know if the dizzy i took out was the OG one (NOPE!) or not.

Forgot to mention, good luck finding one!! You will need to do some serious hunting and then when you have found one, get the parts to rebuild it as it will be rooted(they all are).