groovy Seriously Crusin Dubber
101 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·
does anybody know if qld transport will pass the old type indicators on a 58 beetle in door pillars.
arm type dir indicatoer58
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
I know they are illegal in NSW...groovy wrote:does anybody know if qld transport will pass the old type indicators on a 58 beetle in door pillars.
I believe the indicators need to flash...
Most people wouldn't know what they meant or take any notice of them....
much safer to have blinkers front & rear..
LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Australian design rules only apply to vehicles made AFTER they come into effect. The First Edition ADRs were distributed only for discussion purposes. However, they were not adopted as a legally binding set of standards under either national or state/territory law.
The Second Edition ADRs first came into effect on 1 January 1969. These ADRs were selectively applied under state/territory law. They were subsequently made part of the national standards by Determination No 2 of 1989 published by the Commonwealth Government Gazette (Special Gazette series) No S 291 dated 1 September 1989.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/index.aspx
A 1958 Beetle fitted with trafficators as original equipment is not required to meet modern design laws, any more than any other car made 52 years ago. If the car had them fitted from new, then they are legal. Of course, whether they are SAFE in today's traffic is another point entirely.
The Second Edition ADRs first came into effect on 1 January 1969. These ADRs were selectively applied under state/territory law. They were subsequently made part of the national standards by Determination No 2 of 1989 published by the Commonwealth Government Gazette (Special Gazette series) No S 291 dated 1 September 1989.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/index.aspx
A 1958 Beetle fitted with trafficators as original equipment is not required to meet modern design laws, any more than any other car made 52 years ago. If the car had them fitted from new, then they are legal. Of course, whether they are SAFE in today's traffic is another point entirely.
donn Wolfsburg Elder
3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
So could you leave them on and operative but rig up a flasher unit to the circuit turning them into flashing indicators? Only real problem I see there is that they would not be as visible from certain directions front and rear of car.
I dream of a day when a chicken can cross a road without being asked for it's motive!
Barnabie Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
Phil74Camper wrote:Australian design rules only apply to vehicles made AFTER they come into effect. The First Edition ADRs were distributed only for discussion purposes. However, they were not adopted as a legally binding set of standards under either national or state/territory law.
The Second Edition ADRs first came into effect on 1 January 1969. These ADRs were selectively applied under state/territory law. They were subsequently made part of the national standards by Determination No 2 of 1989 published by the Commonwealth Government Gazette (Special Gazette series) No S 291 dated 1 September 1989.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/index.aspx
A 1958 Beetle fitted with trafficators as original equipment is not required to meet modern design laws, any more than any other car made 52 years ago. If the car had them fitted from new, then they are legal.
Thats great info ... I always assumed that they'd have to meet modern requirements with things like indicators. Looks like semaphores are back on the cards for my 57 Oval 'rebuild' 😉
57oval Officially Full-On Dubber
305 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·
What are you smoking, 🤪 my oval was blue sliped with semaphores, and passes every year for a pink slip with them.68AutoBug wrote:I know they are illegal in NSW...groovy wrote:does anybody know if qld transport will pass the old type indicators on a 58 beetle in door pillars.
I believe the indicators need to flash...
Most people wouldn't know what they meant or take any notice of them....
much safer to have blinkers front & rear..
LEE
groovy Seriously Crusin Dubber
101 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·
thanks for the help ,