naylor_james Slammed & Awesome Dubber
77 posts · joined Aug 2010 ·
Does anyone on here drive a type 3 without bumpers?? Being 73 do the ADR rules apply to a 73??? So basically I'm asking will I pass blue slip wohout my bumpers ???
Legality of running with no bumpers??
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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·
did it come out from factory with bumpers?
if so there is pretty much your answer imo
h
if so there is pretty much your answer imo
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waveman1500 Also rides a Honda
1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
There were already plenty of ADRs in force by 1973, but your real question is what the blue slip inspection boys will think. I'd ring and ask them whether you would pass with no bumpers or not.
naylor_james Slammed & Awesome Dubber
77 posts · joined Aug 2010 ·
correct waveman.. 🙂 think that will be the best guide
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
depends wholly with the tester...naylor_james wrote:Does anyone on here drive a type 3 without bumpers?? Being 73 do the ADR rules apply to a 73??? So basically I'm asking will I pass blue slip wohout my bumpers ???
some say ok no bumpers...
others say You need bumpers....
its much better to hit a pedestrian without bumpers....
Lee
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
actually the 73 type 3s had an extra bumper bar behind the bumper..
an excellent idea...
Lee
an excellent idea...
Lee
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waveman1500 Also rides a Honda
1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
Yes, but they're not actually attached rigidly. As far as I know, it's supposed to slide back telescopically through the spare wheel well area to help absorb impact, and then if your car still has any forward momentum the ends of the tubular bar hit the front axle beam and then becomes rigid. My '73 wagon still had the convoluted rubber tubes for the bumper to slide through.68AutoBug wrote:actually the 73 type 3s had an extra bumper bar behind the bumper..
an excellent idea...
Lee
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6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
IF ur really keen,
Cut off the front apron and front of the fenders and resin/plastic up a replica with a front intrusion bar behind....
alot of work and crazy yes..., would look stock if done properly, and should keep the stubborn inspector happy.
Cut off the front apron and front of the fenders and resin/plastic up a replica with a front intrusion bar behind....
alot of work and crazy yes..., would look stock if done properly, and should keep the stubborn inspector happy.
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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
You talking about the bumper tube and apron assembly?
Not the body apron btw.
Pretty sure 1970-73 were all like that. All mine have been.
Not the body apron btw.
Pretty sure 1970-73 were all like that. All mine have been.
71 notchback,
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1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
The tube is attached to the bumper with a couple of small screws and slides through the lower front apron. The tube ends are very close to the attachment points of the front suspension beam so very little movement of the bumper means that the force is transferred directly to the floorpan/chassis rather than crush the whole front and in turn the fuel tank. A bit of extra protection in conjunction with the spare wheel in a front ender. The slightest bumper bump on earlier models can easly push the quarters back at the bumper mounts.waveman1500 wrote:Yes, but they're not actually attached rigidly. As far as I know, it's supposed to slide back telescopically through the spare wheel well area to help absorb impact, and then if your car still has any forward momentum the ends of the tubular bar hit the front axle beam and then becomes rigid. My '73 wagon still had the convoluted rubber tubes for the bumper to slide through.68AutoBug wrote:actually the 73 type 3s had an extra bumper bar behind the bumper..
an excellent idea...
Lee
The strengthening tube appeared in 1968 here (69 model year). Slightly earlier models, maybe 68 here had the pressings in the apron but weren't actually cut for the tube. Would have been in the European and US builds in 68 model year.
DH
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Yes My 71 model variant had it..
funnily enough I have never read anywhere about it....
extra safety.... a lot extra...
one great idea... now how could that be transferred over to a beetle???
LEE
funnily enough I have never read anywhere about it....
extra safety.... a lot extra...
one great idea... now how could that be transferred over to a beetle???
LEE
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squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe
4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
To keep the topic on track, I'd personally go for the bluey with the bumper on, and then make your changes after that. I can my notch without the bumper for years - never got in trouble at rego time. Taking it off the road and going through full rego is another issue.
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
Also an increase in aero dynamics as it reduces to eddies you get just behind the bumper. All though this adds weight.68AutoBug wrote:Yes My 71 model variant had it..
funnily enough I have never read anywhere about it....
extra safety.... a lot extra...
one great idea... now how could that be transferred over to a beetle???
LEE
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang
9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·
It would be the same deal as if it were a bug
No bumpers are fine as long as the front plate is securely and clearly mounted and there are no dangerous protusions like t-bars, bumper brackets etc
I'd do like the others have said though and just get the bluey done with them on then do what you like after
No bumpers are fine as long as the front plate is securely and clearly mounted and there are no dangerous protusions like t-bars, bumper brackets etc
I'd do like the others have said though and just get the bluey done with them on then do what you like after
naylor_james Slammed & Awesome Dubber
77 posts · joined Aug 2010 ·
Good advice thanks guys... This all helps towards the plan 🙂