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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#801656
Hey everyone.
Had to pull my beetles gen pully off today,last week it was making a ticking noise,and was slowly getting loose.Turns out that the key which sits on the shaft was wearing.When i replaced the bearings a while back we noticed this with the original key,so had to fabricate a new one to match the new shape.Had to do the same again today.It worked,no noise and keeping tight.(not sure for how long)

I cant afford a new gen at the moment.So i was wondering if anyone else has experienced this type of problem ? also (not especially) but are there any products that rid of the key altogether?

The only thing in my engine bay that is not new 😂

Kind Advice please guys.
Thanks in Advance😊
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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#801689
bump =)
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#801695
Hi, You could try loctite super retaining compound in conjuntion with its primer,i think it is number 680, just use it to glue the key into the shaft, if you use it on the shaft you probably would not be able to get apart again.

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#801700
Thanks vwo60 for the reply.
yeh we did think of that,and came to the same conclusion.Wont be able to get it off again if we ever need to.
But thanks.🙂
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pod i`ve got to finish this thing one day

4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#801753
have the woodruff key hole re-cut in the opposite side to the original ,easy if you have the right machinery,either that or get another genny
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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#801969
pod wrote:have the woodruff key hole re-cut in the opposite side to the original ,easy if you have the right machinery,either that or get another genny
ahh yeh i didnt think of that.dont really have the gear for that tho.
Anyone know what the average price for a genny is?
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#801981
jjwebb123 wrote:Hey everyone.
Had to pull my beetles gen pully off today,last week it was making a ticking noise,and was slowly getting loose.Turns out that the key which sits on the shaft was wearing.When i replaced the bearings a while back we noticed this with the original key,so had to fabricate a new one to match the new shape.Had to do the same again today.It worked,no noise and keeping tight.(not sure for how long)

I cant afford a new gen at the moment.So i was wondering if anyone else has experienced this type of problem ? also (not especially) but are there any products that rid of the key altogether?

The only thing in my engine bay that is not new 😂

Kind Advice please guys.
Thanks in Advance😊

You can get used generators fairly cheap....
every engine had one... lol
heaps are about....

You can buy the original VW woodruff keys..
and You can also buy products to fix this...
loctite etc... holds the key in place....
that's what I would be using...
and they are able to be pulled apart with normal tools..

LEE
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jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#802046
Thanks lee.
So you think i will be able to pull it apart again,if i do use loctite?
becuase i was thinking of that.
Thanks 👍
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#802115
I don't think the loctite will last long.
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#802179
Personal experence tells me that it will , as long as the bore of the pulley and the key way in the pulley or the shaft is not worn it will work, this wear happens after the top pulley has been loose, we use all types of loctite in critical area's of hydrocarbon production with no issues, you just have to use the correct product for the application, loctite will not work if there is any trace's of oil or dirt, and works the best when it is used in conjuction with it primer. dont glue the pulley on with the 680 as you will not be able to remove it without the application of heat, just fit the key and let it set and make sure that the pulley is torqued correctly, it worth a try.

jjwebb123 Wolfsburg Wizard

617 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#802486
torqued?
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#802502
The bolt that holds the split pulley together done up to the factory recommended torque setting, this is done with a torque bar. it is good work practice to torque all of the critical bolts on your car in this manner, it stops things like broken or stripped bolts and warped brake drums occurring when they are over tightened during assembly. have a look in the manual and you will see that a value in neuton metre's or foot pound's
is listed for all critical bolts on your car

OZ Towdster Keen to finish some projects

1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#802529
Have you concidered that the pulley is the faulty part here ??? ie it is now outer shape in it's centre and is constantly moving about on the genny shaft and damaging the woodruff keys as no matter how tight you tighten the nut an eliptical hole is always going to work it's self loose on a round shaft
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#802554
OZ Towdster wrote:Have you concidered that the pulley is the faulty part here ??? ie it is now outer shape in it's centre and is constantly moving about on the genny shaft and damaging the woodruff keys as no matter how tight you tighten the nut an eliptical hole is always going to work it's self loose on a round shaft
x2
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#802571
rumour has it that to remove the 'fastening' properties of any stubborn loctite is to simply apply heat. 👍
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#802879
Hi,
In have already addressed that in a previous post and yes small amount of heat will get it apart