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vicelore Officially Full-On Dubber

254 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#803655
Hey guys .

Well as above whats your opinion on rolling guard lips.

Recently tried to fit some BRMs to my type 3 and think im going to need to have the guards lips rolled.

Whos done it ? How did you do it ?

Is it considered bad ?

Cheers Vice
Currently driving my 1st VW.. 67 type 3 1600..And loving it..

1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#803666
Some tyre outlets have a roller which attaches to the drum to roll the lip.

DH

vicelore Officially Full-On Dubber

254 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#803668
Yea iv seen those contraptions..

Iv got the rear guards rolled out a fair bit on my DD subaru to fit 18s under her.. This was done with a piece of tube my my local body shop..

It did crack some paint along the edge and wasnt a solution i was 100 % happy with on that car. But shes got 250k on the clock so a cheap fix was right at the time.

This car is going to be with me for a long time so i want everything done perfect. So Maybey the short axle conversion might be a better option. ( even tho i cannot find a thing about the process or required parts online. )

Cheers Vice
Currently driving my 1st VW.. 67 type 3 1600..And loving it..

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#803678
Don't know about lips, but I'm rolling my eyes.😂😂
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#803679
vicelore wrote:Hey guys .

Well as above whats your opinion on rolling guard lips.

Recently tried to fit some BRMs to my type 3 and think im going to need to have the guards lips rolled.

Whos done it ? How did you do it ?

Is it considered bad ?

Cheers Vice
You don't see it done very often...
and when You see it the paint is usually cracked...

I don't think it weakens the guard at all...?

its much better looking than an extra piece of 50mm wide steel poking out.... widening the guard... lol

better than having Your tyre rubbing...

LEE
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#803686
To do it properly the guard is cut verticaly in a in several places and pieces are welded in so there is enough material to allow it to shaped the way that you want it, it is very hard and expensive to get a shape that does not spoil the shape of the car or troweled up with about a kilo of bog hence the cracking, a good panel beater who knows how to work sheet metal can file finnish mods like this but only if you have enough money

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#803690
Hi

I needed to have it done on my sons bug, I went to a few of the big tyre outlets around here, none wanted to touch it.

I ended up taking the guards off and having the lips professionally flattened on the inside and then repainted.

They usually heat the panel up a bit to prevent cracking.

Steve

hulbyw Insano Dub Head

819 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#803692
My elder son had his VR6 Passat front guards rolled in Melbourne. Guy took heaps of care and did a good job. Will see if I can get his phone number and post it later tonight.

57oval Officially Full-On Dubber

305 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·

#803701
Dont ruin a original Type3 with rolled gaurds😠

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#803709
1: they have those special contraptions available from ebay rather than using a tube...

Paint cracking is prevented via a decent heat gun and not going to extreme (be delicate :P)

and 2... youtube is great 👍 (Heres 3 examples of 3 different methods, the last being the contraption (besides the hammer tool lol)

a)

b)

c)

and D) DON'T DO IT LIKE THIS 😂
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hulbyw Insano Dub Head

819 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#803716
OK, guy that did my son's VR6's name is Gavan and he is based in Tullamarine but will come to you if required (at extra cost of course). His mob is 0438 892 344. Give him a call and see what he says (Type 3 guards will be a lot thicker than VR6 I reckon).
Cheers

DubCrazy Custom Title Time!

1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#803749
bajachris88 wrote:1: they have those special contraptions available from ebay rather than using a tube...

Paint cracking is prevented via a decent heat gun and not going to extreme (be delicate :P)

and 2... youtube is great 👍 (Heres 3 examples of 3 different methods, the last being the contraption (besides the hammer tool lol)

a)

b)

c)

and D) DON'T DO IT LIKE THIS 😂
the third video is how we do a lot of them . the best way is to cut weld etc etc but we've done plenty of different guards with that tool with out any cracking and no visible change. Just did a monaro(new shape) a few weeks back for a customer and you could hardly tell it was flared and rolled

i think you will struggle with the type 3 guards but its worth a try. slow and steady is the way,. dont rush it or u will crack paint or make the flare/roll uneven


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lardo Officially Full-On Dubber

288 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#803812
Sell it to me before you destroy it any more.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#803815
You can have the backs of the wheels machined.
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lownsneaky Casual Dubber

32 posts · joined Sep 2010 ·

#803833
as long as its fone properly it looks fine and works great 🙂

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#803941
I jst had the gaurds rolled on my charade, so i can get bigger rims, i went to a msash repairer and he warned me that the paint may chip. He did it and it did but he fixed it for free so was all good. They heat the paint to make less chance of chipping but it still happens.

Steve and Daves bug has massively rolled gaurds, if you can find someone that will do a job like thiers.