Andrew's 2276cc Grunter

dangerous · 2010-05-09T09:04:44+00:00

Andrew, for many years has wanted to build up a grunty 2276cc type 1 engine, which would have many features built into it, so as to have great drivability, reliability and massive usable torque. The plan was to have EFI also, and with help from Crankshaft Engineering, he ordered all the NEW parts he wanted, and Crankshaft Engineering did some initial machining and checking of most of the parts. When the time came to assemble the engine, I was keen to help out. Some of the parts requested were: Flanged crank with ALL type 4 sized mains for strength. Nicasil barrels with JE forged pistons. ARP chome-moly 10mm head stud kit. CB mini-wedge port heads with conical,("bee hive") springs, Pauter 1.5 ratio roller rockers.

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 16 May 2010, 8:53 pm

#779012

bizarre - yes that was his car. i bought it a few years ago

Craig - i hope so but i will be measuring it this week. if it doesn't i get an adaptor made up to reverse the throttle bodies.

Aussie Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 17 May 2010, 7:24 pm

#779190

andrewmurphy wrote:had a chance to get some work done on the accessaries. the tinware was a pain in the neck though but it looks like it's all together now.
just working through the manifolds and throttle bodies. hopefully next weekend i can start to get the engine into the car.

Looks good. Is the tinware all new or original german? Which bits were hard to fit?

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 18 May 2010, 2:02 pm

#779353

the upper cylinder covers did not allow the manifolds to be fitted. and the fan shroud did not sit down on the case properly and needed some manipulation. but it's done now.

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2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 18 May 2010, 2:08 pm

#779355

That looks sweet mate! 🙂

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135 posts · joined May 2006 · 31 May 2010, 9:49 pm

#782136

Great work Dave. You are meticulous and one can learn alot from you. Andrew enjoy the engine - you surely have deeeeeep pockets.

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307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 11 Jul 2010, 2:52 pm

#789911

What a weekend.

Gearbox back in and the engine is in. I can difinitively state that tinware is a pain in the neck. some photos are attached.
i cant get over how good this engine looks thanks to Dave again.

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1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 11 Jul 2010, 2:58 pm

#789913

Engine looks great Andrew, i had the pleasure of looking at your parts at Dave's before engine was assembled, the nickies are nice, i got to build a type 4 2.4 with nickies last year at Raby's. The Pauter rockers are also great too. Enjoy your engine mate.

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 11 Jul 2010, 3:09 pm

#789916

youre getting there !

Just a thought on the pushrod tubes.....are they the right way round ?? I would have thought the small tube would feed into the large tube (for the oil to run down) not the large tube first going into the small one at the case end. Maybe its due to the 1.5's needing a larger tube at the rocker end ?

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 · 11 Jul 2010, 3:11 pm

#789917

This probably seems silly but what is the block off plate on the sump on the right hand side?

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1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 11 Jul 2010, 3:14 pm

#789918

71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:This probably seems silly but what is the block off plate on the sump on the right hand side?

It's a universal case so you can use it for a type 3 build also.

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 11 Jul 2010, 8:20 pm

#789987

Craig Torrens wrote:youre getting there !

Just a thought on the pushrod tubes.....are they the right way round ?? I would have thought the small tube would feed into the large tube (for the oil to run down) not the large tube first going into the small one at the case end. Maybe its due to the 1.4's needing a larger tube at the rocker end ?

Yeah those billet tubes have less room on the small end than stockers,
so they have to go around that way.

I actually prefer stock tubes if I can.
It depends on engine width, and also,
some heads have nuts that are under there, so need them too.
Andrew liked the shiny ones.
You are correct though, the oil return flow is not ideal, but not a problem.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

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8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 3 Oct 2010, 6:59 pm

#805479

Andrew, any updates ?

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1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 · 3 Feb 2011, 2:44 pm

#824527

hows the mini wedge ports performing...just curious...

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 6 Feb 2011, 11:02 am

#825050

hi everyone, it is about time i gave an update.
It has been an interesting start to the year but the car has finally been registed.

we have spent some time tuning the fuel injection system and it is really starting to hum now. i am impressed with the drivability of the engine. have not yet had it on a dyno to get figures or had it down the track. hopefully will have both done in the next two months.

Mark from crankshaft is doing most of the tuning and has been a huge help.

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1,014 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 13 Feb 2011, 10:34 am

#826133

If this is the car i saw last night, This thing seems to Rev well too. only prob is it sounded more like an angry Mirrage then a bug under song 🙂
Nice to see it on the road.

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5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 13 Feb 2011, 11:40 am

#826146

ang3lsholocaust wrote:If this is the car i saw last night, This thing seems to Rev well too. only prob is it sounded more like an angry Mirrage then a bug under song 🙂
Nice to see it on the road.

yep V26 cam is awsome for tourque and RPM!

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 27 Feb 2011, 12:51 pm

#828485

went for a drive today, tuning is really close. man this thing hooks up and goes.
took a mate for a spin who thought his XR6 was quick. need to clean the seats now.
temp getting a little high but have not hooked the external oil cooler up yet and it only got to 100.
it is great to be back in a bug.

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8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 27 Feb 2011, 1:26 pm

#828489

Good to hear Andrew....congrats 👍👍

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426 posts · joined May 2005 · 27 Feb 2011, 5:55 pm

#828533

love it mate! let us know how the dyno run goes. are you liking the injection?

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 28 Feb 2011, 7:00 am

#828626

we know a lot more now about the injection so it is getting easier to make changes and see impacts.
Mark is doing most of the tuning work though. very helpful.

Dak-A-Tak Volksie Pete

1,381 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 28 Feb 2011, 7:43 am

#828640

Andrew good work all around there , can't beat going for a drive .
You should bring it along to our dyno day at Leon's motor later in the year . Working out
details at moment .
Enjoy 😎

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307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 28 Feb 2011, 6:33 pm

#828750

sounds like fun

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 29 Oct 2011, 10:12 pm

#869334

Updates ?

How did it go at Warwick ?

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 30 Oct 2011, 7:28 am

#869359

andrewmurphy wrote:then it is off to the dyno for run in and tuning.

Still waiting for a tune,🥲
other than the "closed loop drive around",
but it reportedly goes pretty good.

Other than grenading a cooling fan at Warwick,🤪
I beleive it ran just into the 8's.

Last I heard Andrew had ordered a hair dryer for it.

Car currently weighs 1930lbs without Andrew....plus 100KG big boy?!

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 30 Oct 2011, 8:16 pm

#869514

Cool.........bummer re fan.

andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 1 Nov 2011, 7:46 pm

#869873

i had a great time at Warwick. thanks to Mark for all the assist over the weekend.
i was having traction problems on launch so i decided to do a monster burn out.
it went fantastic until the fan grenaded......oooops.
the exploding fan snapped the alternator stand in half.
there happened to be a guy selling some parts that had a spare alternator stand so we ripped off the fan shroud, fan and alternator. bolted on the new alternator stand then went racing again.
we did not do much in the way of car tuning as there needed to be some time tuning the driver. (more tuning required there lol)
the hair dryer arrived yesterday so we will install that over the next few weekends. hopefully having it running before xmas.
then get it on the track for more driver tuning. at some stage we might even get some car tuning done.....

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 14 Dec 2011, 8:23 pm

#877042

Has it got pickup?

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58 posts · joined Jul 2009 · 16 Dec 2011, 8:32 am

#877251

You Back in Aussie Andrew?

Cheers
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2,220 posts · joined May 2007 · 16 Dec 2011, 8:38 am

#877252

dangerous wrote:Has it got pickup?

Sounds like dangerous has an inside scoop methinks...

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andrewmurphy Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 17 Dec 2011, 1:29 pm

#877418

Nicholai, yes i am back in aus now. had a job offer i could not refuse.
the beetle came too and is on the road. had it running for about 12 months.
just finished a 'little' upgrade over the last weekend. and it humming along now

fast68 wrote:You Back in Aussie Andrew?

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