FS - Pobjoy Base 1916 with Kadrons & fresh case NSW

fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 9 Oct 2010, 4:13 pm

#806763

I bought this engine in 2007 intending to rebuild it. The previous owner over-tightened the oil pressure switch and cracked the case. I had a nice low mileage twin port 1300. I pulled it apart and had Stan Pobjoy check it and machine it so I could rebuild the engine in the 1300 case. But I never got around to it.

Features include
8 dowel crank
Kadron carbs
Pobjoy deep sump
Fresh 1300 AB case machined for 94 barrels and full-flowed
009 distributor
94mm pistons and barrels
Pobjoy cam which I think revs to 5500 or 6000

Price $3000 ONO

CT Hansen
Avalon 2107
Ph 0401 843 151

Freshly Machined Case from a Twin Port 1300

Stan Pobjoy Deep Sump

8 dowel crank

esratrams

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 9 Oct 2010, 9:56 pm

#806804

Hi, Im interested in it.

Do you know the history of the motor, like receipts and Km's etc ?

Have you verified with Stan that its one that he built (via the engine number) ?

The reason I ask is that he doesn't use the metal inlet manifolds on the Kadrons (they have a smaller ID), cast oil pump covers, and 99% of his 1916's have the VDO temp sender tapped into the front of the case......so i dont really want to buy a copy one.

Cheers.

1916baja Custom Title Time!

1,990 posts · joined Sep 2007 · 10 Oct 2010, 1:58 am

#806818

hi mate, any idea on rough RWHP this might produce?

thanks
Mick.

fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 10 Oct 2010, 7:43 am

#806825

I've never driven a base 1916 and never dynoed one. Although I really wanted to, that's why I bought this engine. Perhaps Craig has some idea of the RWHP.

I doubt it is a copy. Even if it is, you still get the same parts combination including a balanced and 8 dowel crank assembly and pobjoy case, 94 pistons, barrels etc. If it doesn't turn out to be a base-spec cam I'll give the buyer a steroid cam.

The appeal of this engine is the extra power and torque and it should be as reliable and low maintenance of a stocker.

This would be great for a daily driver or kombi. Although, Paul Loiocono had one in his blue L bug and was only a second behind Jak and I at Oran Park south.

Regards CTH

esratrams

fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 11 Oct 2010, 10:40 am

#806971

Sale pending to Dave. Thanks

esratrams

sander288 "Bolt-on Master"

1,404 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 11 Oct 2010, 12:31 pm

#806989

Craig correct me if i'm wrong but a Base 1916 has about 75-80rwhp, a bit more with twin plugs?

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fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 · 11 Oct 2010, 2:11 pm

#807009

man that would be a tame 1915, but i guess good enough for daily.

bitten by the bug..........several times

type_one Custom Title Time!

1,161 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 11 Oct 2010, 3:22 pm

#807019

I was the idiot that used to own this engine and over tightened the sender cracking the case. I had it in KG and it was a good daily driver. No idea if is was a Stan engine as it was in the car when i got it. but went good. till i broke it. LOL.

Blank

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 11 Oct 2010, 7:01 pm

#807072

the old sender again i would like $2.00 for all the cases ruined by senders and most are the wrong sender vw not tapered all other fords holden toyota etc. do tighten up taper forces the sides out and crack

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1916baja Custom Title Time!

1,990 posts · joined Sep 2007 · 11 Oct 2010, 8:19 pm

#807090

My case was cracked by tapping for full flow... we repaird it though.

zayus Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 12 Oct 2010, 4:28 pm

#807211

Hey hey,

I had a 'base model' Pobjoy 1916 in my '66 Beetle.
The engine was built late 1996. Believe it produced around 100hp @ the wheels.

My little sister and I ran the car @ the 1997 Nationals Drag Day @ Oran Park.
My little sister ran a time of 9.98 over the 1/8.
I did a 10.2.

I would like to think it was her 45 kilo frame that was responsible for the better time, not her superior driving skills! 🙂

An old 'base' Pobjoy 1916, is loads of fun. Plenty of torque and enough power to spin the wheels and break axles & gearboxes!

Ollie Yeah Buddy

840 posts · joined Oct 2009 · 14 Oct 2010, 12:33 pm

#807541

I called pobjoy a month or two ago and got into a deep discussion about hp and 'dynos' in regards to his motors. He said originally he was quoating 100hp at the wheels but eventually after much scrutiny from various people he says that his engines produce around 70-75hp atw.

That said, he also mentioned that there is no point going by hp figures, but more from how the car feels and the power curve.

Just my two cents- I'm sure it's an awesome motor 🙂

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devon57 Commited Dubber

55 posts · joined Sep 2009 · 14 Oct 2010, 6:10 pm

#807563

OMClarke wrote:I called pobjoy a month or two ago and got into a deep discussion about hp and 'dynos' in regards to his motors.

That would have been a loooooooong phone call😂😂

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 14 Oct 2010, 8:24 pm

#807588

OMClarke wrote:he was quoating 100hp at the wheels but eventually after much scrutiny from various people he says that his engines produce around 70-75hp atw.

That said, he also mentioned that there is no point going by hp figures, but more from how the car feels and the power curve.

He was quoting 100hp because thats what the reading was from the Dyno 22 years ago.I have recently Dynoed a base at 78.8hp......I know of heaps that have dynoed between 75-85hp.
All the ones that are in the 65hp range tend to have the wrong exhaust/carbs/or are poorly tuned.

A proper base in a stock weight beetle will give you a 15.9 flat /16 sec quarter or a 10.0 1/8th.

They are a great combo, and was designed by Stan to be a low maintenance, everyday motor that gave great performance, good economy and would last the same length of time as a well maintained stock 1600 motor.

Mick058 Custom Title Time!

1,580 posts · joined Jan 2008 · 15 Oct 2010, 11:21 am

#807681

Craig Torrens wrote:
OMClarke wrote:he was quoating 100hp at the wheels but eventually after much scrutiny from various people he says that his engines produce around 70-75hp atw.

That said, he also mentioned that there is no point going by hp figures, but more from how the car feels and the power curve.

...All the ones that are in the 65hp range tend to have the wrong exhaust/carbs/or are poorly tuned....

...Or had clutch issues

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