space saver

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 9 Dec 2010, 3:22 pm

#816298

Planing a long trip in the bugeye wench, figure it would be smart to take a spare tyre / whee,l what car would have one to fit a 14 inch 4 stud, any suggestions?
Thanks
Don

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Dec 2010, 7:43 pm

#816327

donn wrote:Planing a long trip in the bugeye wench, figure it would be smart to take a spare tyre / whee,l what car would have one to fit a 14 inch 4 stud, any suggestions?
Thanks
Don

Nothing I can think of....

VW is 4 x 130mm

and normally 15 inch....

a space saver would get you out of trouble if it had the correct centre and holes...

but again
a couple of bottles of tyre stop leak [or whatever its called]
and a good small high pressure 12 volt compressor to pump the tyres up...

or an old 4 stud standard wheel and tyre... 15 inch...

don't forget a jack will be needed with a tyre/wheel... lol

LEE

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 10 Dec 2010, 11:47 am

#816374

I have measured the bolt / stud centres on my buggy and as near as I can measure them they are 93mm center to center between adjacent bolts, I have some rims (14x6 mags) off a 73 L bug and they measure the same, surely both cars can't have the same non standard conversion, so am I measuring them correctly? ie:- adjacent bolts, or are they measured between opposite bolts, that would seem strange to me as it would make it hard to measure a 5 stud wheel.

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Snap Crackle Bang Seriously Crusin Dubber

146 posts · joined Aug 2009 · 10 Dec 2010, 12:24 pm

#816377

130mm is the PCD or pitch circle diameter of VW 4 stud Beetle hubs. The PCD will be the same as the distamce between the centres of diagonally opposite bolts. I recon that is what you have.
130mm PCD is larger than anything common over here.

Cheers

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 10 Dec 2010, 1:17 pm

#816386

ARSO, they are measured so that the center of the bolts line up with a circle of a given diameter, that diameter being the PCD (in my case 130mm, give or take, as I reckon closer to 132mm) so if it's "larger than anything common over here" why would I have two vehicles the same or probably more to the point where is "over here"

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Special Air Service Chief "Gunna"

1,769 posts · joined Oct 2004 · 10 Dec 2010, 7:10 pm

#816435

Don,
you have a PM mate.

Cheers
Brendan

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 10 Dec 2010, 9:28 pm

#816456

You're not gonna find a space saver with 4x130

The only cars that ran that pattern were 4lug air cooled vws, porsche 914 and a couple of 70s models Lancias

Spare in a can is your best option

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 10 Dec 2010, 10:34 pm

#816460

donn wrote:I have measured the bolt / stud centres on my buggy and as near as I can measure them they are 93mm center to center between adjacent bolts, I have some rims (14x6 mags) off a 73 L bug and they measure the same, surely both cars can't have the same non standard conversion, so am I measuring them correctly? ie:- adjacent bolts, or are they measured between opposite bolts, that would seem strange to me as it would make it hard to measure a 5 stud wheel.

NOW WE GET IT DONN..

You have 5 stud wheels We were looking at 4 stud wheels lol

there were the odd car with that pattern back in the 50s...
besides the VW beetle and Kombi..
but the VW 5 stud wheel is the easiest to find.. lol

cheers

LEE

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 11 Dec 2010, 5:55 am

#816478

Sorry Lee, you don't get it, I have 4 stud, reading back over my post I can see that it is a bit vague, only mentioned 5 stud as I couldn't figure out how the stud centers were measured on a 5 stud if you measured opposite bolts.
Brenden, thanks for the offer, do you realy have 4 stud space saver?, if you do what car did it come off?.

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Special Air Service Chief "Gunna"

1,769 posts · joined Oct 2004 · 11 Dec 2010, 8:49 am

#816488

Don,

No not space saver, just have some 14 inch buggy wheels that would suit if it comes to the crunch.

Cheers
Brendan

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ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 · 11 Dec 2010, 9:12 am

#816492

no good having one of those space saver wheels, if when it comes time to use it, your car body is sitting on the ground because the wheel is to small 🤪😂

😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 11 Dec 2010, 10:26 am

#816503

Another problem with space savers is 14" ones which are the most common don't clear VW calipers on the front as I found out
Had to get a 15" one