'68 type 1 distributer.. which one to get?

Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 3 Jan 2011, 11:58 pm

#819610

Hey Dubbers 🙂

I recently had a mechanic look at my engine (coz i took it out, sprayed it and cleaned it) and when i did it all he mentioned that the distributer is totally not the one i should have.

I have a 1300cc and the one in there has one that he said should be on a 1200cc...

Also the vacuum (is that what its called) connected to it is an old style, not mechanical.

Sorry for the vagueness, but im wondering how do i find the correct dist, or a nice (not too $$ aftermarket one) and also the vacuumm thing!

Cheers for any help,

Any questions and ill walk out and ahve a look now!

Glenn

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Jan 2011, 12:55 am

#819612

Gangel wrote:Hey Dubbers 🙂

I recently had a mechanic look at my engine (coz i took it out, sprayed it and cleaned it) and when i did it all he mentioned that the distributer is totally not the one i should have.

I have a 1300cc and the one in there has one that he said should be on a 1200cc...

Also the vacuum (is that what its called) connected to it is an old style, not mechanical.

Sorry for the vagueness, but im wondering how do i find the correct dist, or a nice (not too $$ aftermarket one) and also the vacuumm thing!

Cheers for any help,

Any questions and ill walk out and ahve a look now!

Glenn

Hi Glenn,

The correct distributor depends on what carburetor You are using...
I am running a new Bosch SVDA single vacuum dual advance distributor , I had a new 009 bosch distributor before which is purely mechanical...
The SVDA distributor has made the world of difference to My car.... better economy, much faster acceleration...
so smooth .... unreal....

You can buy copies of the SVDA cheap in Australia at the moment.. I think Mick motors sells them plus other advertisers in VWA magazine.... has them.

the 30/31 PICT carburetors don't have enough vacuum for the late model distributors with Vacuum...

the 009 mechanical only distributors were never used by VW on any of their cars... its just a cheap replacement..

cheers

LEE

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 4 Jan 2011, 9:38 am

#819649

68AutoBug wrote:the 009 mechanical only distributors were never used by VW on any of their cars... its just a cheap replacement..

cheers

LEE

mechanical only dizzys like 009s were used in the early splittys.
about the only place were they were really suited, an engine that had to be driven flat stick all the time.

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 4 Jan 2011, 10:48 am

#819668

It also depends on your application.

I have recently changed to a 009 dissy from a purely vacuum advance one in my Baja.

In an offroad situation when chugging along slowly this is what you want. The vacuum one used to completely advance as soon as you put your foot near the accelerator, whereas the 009 doesn't until the revs are up. Exactly what you want for crawling up hills in an offroad car. I've found that the hill climbing and general offroad ability of my car has improved since going to the full mechanical dissy.

Different horses for different courses I guess.

In your case I would probably try and go for the dual mechanical/vacuum advance dissy.

Smiley 😎

If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

kieranweston Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Sep 2010 · 5 Jan 2011, 3:00 pm

#819904

I have just stripped down my 1963 1600 engine, it previously had a 009 (no vacuum) distributor and I have now fitted a vacuum advance (as it had originally) and it seems to be running much better, same thing happened with a 1303 I had once, the 009 always seemed to be recommended but personally I preferred the original, no flat spots and much better idling

Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 5 Jan 2011, 4:36 pm

#819922

wow ok thanks for all the responses.

So really if i understand its a matter changing carbs and getting a dist to match it, as 68autobug says?

sounds good, ill look into prices now :S
lol

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 5 Jan 2011, 7:49 pm

#819956

What model carb is on your engine?
One of the new SVDA like Lee has would work well if its a 31 or 34pict carb

009s were widely used in the past only because they were cheap and were the only option, till recently noone manufactured vac advance dizzys for a sane price

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jan 2011, 12:04 am

#820012

kieranweston wrote:I have just stripped down my 1963 1600 engine, it previously had a 009 (no vacuum) distributor and I have now fitted a vacuum advance (as it had originally) and it seems to be running much better, same thing happened with a 1303 I had once, the 009 always seemed to be recommended but personally I preferred the original, no flat spots and much better idling

that is quite correct...
009 for a high revving racing engine with lightened flywheel etc

but for a road car the SVDA as originally fitted to VWs by Volkswagen are the best...
so smooth after a 009.... !!!
read the article on aircooled.net about the SVDA dissy...

LEE

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Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 6 Jan 2011, 5:04 pm

#820133

where is the model number for the carb on the engine written??
Sorry.. im a noob

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 6 Jan 2011, 5:16 pm

#820142

on the left side of the carb it will cast into the float chamber like this

Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 6 Jan 2011, 5:20 pm

#820144

kk mine says solex 34 pict 3

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jan 2011, 5:20 pm

#820146

on the square part of the carby it will have Solex PICT
and a number...

30 pict 3 - 34 PICT 3 - examples..

LEE

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 6 Jan 2011, 5:23 pm

#820147

Mmm thats a 1600 carby. probably a good chance your whole engine is a 1600
can you chuck a pic of it up

If you have an early vac only diz with it they will not play real nice together

So one of the new SVDA is exactly what it wants
think they are around the $100 now

Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 6 Jan 2011, 5:54 pm

#820154

ok.. .just a pic of engine from the back? and u can tell the size by that???

Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 6 Jan 2011, 6:25 pm

#820158

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 6 Jan 2011, 7:32 pm

#820174

She;s a bitsa alright but yes 99.9% chance it's a 1600

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 6 Jan 2011, 7:39 pm

#820177

009's work fine on several of my motors......including 3 of my 36hp cars !

I agree that the original SVDA is always the best option, but don't believe all the bad publicity re 009's 😎

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Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 7 Jan 2011, 12:14 am

#820242

cool thanks guys!

So my aim is this svga one correct?

WHere do i source it from? I looked on classive vw but couldnt see one (am i looking in wrong place/name??)

Also... i want to update something every now and then.... but in a year im thinking of putting in twin carbies... is this something i really shouldnt do with the svga and hence i should wait for the cash and do both at once??

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 7 Jan 2011, 8:06 am

#820266

Price varies on if you want electronic ignition or not
You can get them with Pertronix or compu-fire for $185

https://www.classicveedub.com.au/cvd_new/part_detail.aspx?parts_id=14558

https://www.classicveedub.com.au/cvd_new/part_detail.aspx?parts_id=14649

Or theyre only $66 if you just wanna stick with points

https://www.classicveedub.com.au/cvd_new/part_detail.aspx?parts_id=16768

some twin carbs need some work to operate with a vac advance dissy. well worth it though if you can find someone who will do it.

If your considering twin carbs in the future though u may be better off holding off and getting a 009 when you get the carbs and just leave your existing dissy in there for now
still better than a 009

Gangel Commited Dubber

64 posts · joined Oct 2010 · 7 Jan 2011, 8:13 pm

#820392

hmmmmm

well the twin carb is realistically more of a dream/wishlist thing... so ill prob update the diz sooner rather than later.

Would adding electronic ignition cause any issues compared to my current setup (eg if i change this is it then a amtter of changing something else?)

Im assuming elect is just more advanced and more specific for timing and more reliable?