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1,936 posts ยท joined Oct 2007 ยท

#820681
Hi all,

I am after suggestions, photos or any advice re adding pump stops for full steering lock left and right. Due to the larger wheels, if I turn full lock in either direction the inside rear of the front tyres touches the body down near the floor pan. I need to work out a way of adding a bump stop to alleviate this problem. I could just not turn the steering wheel as far, but the engineer wouldn't except this method ๐Ÿ™…

Note: This is a 61 Beetle with L/P front end.

Thanks, Kevin
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3,913 posts ยท joined Sep 2004 ยท

#820692
on our beetle they have adjustable steering stops welded on the front beam and the steering box Pittman arm stops against. I also think that Kombies have them to, your have probably been cut off ???
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1,936 posts ยท joined Oct 2007 ยท

#820709
ian.mezz wrote:on our beetle they have adjustable steering stops welded on the front beam, yours have probably been cut off ???
Ian, I know that you know a hell of a lot more than me about VW's but in this case I think you may be wrong. The steering box it self would come to a full lock but there were no other forms of bump stops for the steering lock on the car when I bought it or on the narrowed beam I bought. I will have to do a search of photos to see what you mean.

Thanks, Kevin

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2,220 posts ยท joined May 2007 ยท

#820713
Apparently the steering lock stops are a BJ beam only thing.

I don't think it would be too difficult to knock something similar up for a k&l beam tho... just need to steal the different pitman arm from a BJ beam.

When (if?) it stops raining I'll go out to the shed and grab some pics of the BJ beam setup.
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3,913 posts ยท joined Sep 2004 ยท

#820717
O Mine may have been modified ๐Ÿ˜‚
my super bug have stops on the steering idler arm.
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1,936 posts ยท joined Oct 2007 ยท

#820720
Thanks Dave, but dont worry. I will do some photo research and see what they are like. Also to see if the pitman arm can be used on mine and what else is required.

Kev
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11,654 posts ยท joined Aug 2002 ยท

#820742
Camo wrote:Hi all,

I am after suggestions, photos or any advice re adding pump stops for full steering lock left and right. Due to the larger wheels, if I turn full lock in either direction the inside rear of the front tyres touches the body down near the floor pan. I need to work out a way of adding a bump stop to alleviate this problem. I could just not turn the steering wheel as far, but the engineer wouldn't except this method ๐Ÿ™…

Note: This is a 61 Beetle with L/P front end.

Thanks, Kevin

Hi Kevin...
are You adding a steering damper???
the full lock stops are pieces of steel with a bolt in each one that adjusts for the maximum lock... ie.. tyre rubbing...
on My 68 beetle..

I'll take a pic tomorrow..
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did you use a later steering shaft with the collapsible piece in it??

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8,114 posts ยท joined Mar 2006 ยท

#820756
The steering stop on a link pin beam is at the king pin where the front backing plate bolt is. Because it's old and gets quite some force applied due to the design, the mating surfaces are often slightly pounded. To rectify this or in a case like yours, I'd use a longer front backing plate bolt so it protrudes through the stub axle slightly further and becomes a new stop. It's tricky to get just right as very small increments of adjustments makes a difference, but by putting a longer bolt in and grinding it down progressively does the trick. Be sure to replace with the correct grade of bolt.
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1,936 posts ยท joined Oct 2007 ยท

#820892
Matberry,

you are a genius, thanks heaps. I just had a look and I can see exactly what you mean. Because I put the disc brake caliper bracket on, the bolts dont come through quite far enough. I will get a longer bolt and just grind it down to the appropriate length.

Cheers, Kev

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3,913 posts ยท joined Sep 2004 ยท

#820896
o yeah those aftermarket spindles don't have lock stop bumps, They just flat where the front bolt goes, why didn't you ask that .๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜‚
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#820907
ian.mezz wrote:o yeah those aftermarket spindles don't have lock stop bumps, They just flat where the front bolt goes, why didn't you ask that .๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜‚
Sorry to correct you again Ian, but they are original VW spindles (stub axles) and not aftermarket. But nice try ๐Ÿ˜˜ Maybe you had better get Rose's advise before posting ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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8,040 posts ยท joined Jan 2003 ยท

#820912
Rose must have left the computer on..... maybe she needs a child lockout on it ! ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚


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3,913 posts ยท joined Sep 2004 ยท

#820925
Camo wrote:
ian.mezz wrote:o yeah those aftermarket spindles don't have lock stop bumps, They just flat where the front bolt goes, why didn't you ask that .๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜‚
Sorry to correct you again Ian, but they are original VW spindles (stub axles) and not aftermarket. But nice try ๐Ÿ˜˜ Maybe you had better get Rose's advise before posting ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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3,913 posts ยท joined Sep 2004 ยท

#820926
Craig Torrens wrote:Rose must have left the computer on..... maybe she needs a child lockout on it ! ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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8,114 posts ยท joined Mar 2006 ยท

#820984
Glad it worked ok Kev.

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