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6 posts · joined Mar 2011 · 12 Mar 2011, 12:36 pm

#830420

I have a 75 classic baja bug i just started (1st time for aircool motor) I just bought an ( AKO57033 motor )
that has been done up 1800cc from what told the motor is in a sandrail right now ( sat for +5 years
) the guy said he was have trouble with starters in it , that he has # 3 in it now.
when it turn'n over it sound like a low battery and burns them out .
ANY ONE KNOW OR CARE TO GUESS .

1st timer of pull'n wernchs on vw's

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Mar 2011, 12:53 pm

#830423

do you know what flywheel is on the engine a 6v or 12Volt

as the yhave different number of teeth it will depend on which starter and how long it lasts

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Mar 2011, 4:07 pm

#830451

mtnhillbilly wrote:I have a 75 cassic baja bug i just started (1st time for aircool motor) I just bought an ( AKO57033 motor ) that has been done up 1800cc from what told the motor is in a sandrail right now ( sat for +5 years ) the guy said he was have trouble with starters in it , that he has # 3 in it now. when it turn'n over it sound like a low battery and burns them out . ANY ONE KNOW OR CARE TO GUESS .
1st timer of pull'n wernchs on vw's

I would guess its a 12v 200 mm flywheel but He's using 6 volt starter motors???
the starter bush needs to be replaced.... very inexpensive...
the teeth wouldn't mesh either!!

alternately, ?? He's using an 180mm flywheel [6V] and using 12 volt starter motors...??? which don't mesh correctly..

too much compression??? old wiring... small battery???

Ask Him if He has renewed the starter motor bush???
once they start wearing the end of the starter motor can move away from the ring gear on the flywheel...
and eventually maybe jam up..???

Maybe He is burning the solenoids out????
or burning the contact points in the solenoid...??

lots of options...

Lee

where are You located?????

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

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3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 · 12 Mar 2011, 7:08 pm

#830470

check the starter bush

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 12 Mar 2011, 7:38 pm

#830473

I'm guessing you're in the US?

It's probably a high compression engine, several places there sell hi-torque starter motors,

Stock vw starter is fine for stock motors but usually stuggle once you bump up the capacity and CR.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Mar 2011, 7:41 pm

#830474

we use spanners here in Aussie and we Wrench them to udo or tighten nuts

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

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mtnhillbilly Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Mar 2011 · 12 Mar 2011, 11:28 pm

#830498

from what i have been told it is a 12v starter in it . not sure what he burnt out but he said in a summer he burnt out 2 and now the 3rd is in .
he was not the one to build it up so not sure of flywheel but from what i seen in pic's it thro's a rooster tail of mud tel pole high.😁
I can't find the block # in my book maybe look'n wrong,it's an # AKO57033 motor maybe not a bug motor?
not sure how to get a pic of my gal yet loaded here will try my profile pic , it's got a thing frontend in it.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 13 Mar 2011, 1:11 am

#830505

Well
If its a high compression engine then You will need a reduction starter motor... they are available just about everywhere in the US & Canada... CIP1 CHIRCOs etc
I see You are in Ontario..

You can send pics to Me and I'll reduce them in size and post them here for You, if You can't do it...

Things were never sold in Australia...
but were sold in New Guinea and other countries in the Pacific Oceania region...

cheers

Lee

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

mtnhillbilly Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Mar 2011 · 13 Mar 2011, 2:46 pm

#830541

I'm bet'n on that why he was have'n a hard time start'n ,
Nice thank very much
think i'll start there. how about my AKO57033 motor
have any ideas?

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 13 Mar 2011, 3:04 pm

#830543

mtnhillbilly wrote:I'm bet'n on that why he was have'n a hard time start'n , Nice thank very much think i'll start there. how about my AKO57033 motor have any ideas?

HI

YOUR ENGINE IS FROM A 1973 MODEL BEETLE

AK 0,000,001 TO AK 0,239,364

Made from October 1972 >

so Your engine was made Nov dec 1972 Approx

1973 beetles were made from 1st aug 1972 to 31st july 1973

cheers

Lee

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

mtnhillbilly Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Mar 2011 · 14 Mar 2011, 12:29 pm

#830661

Thanks 68AutoBug you have been a big help , on my way to get a new reduction starter . just let me know if theres anything i can do for you be'n that i'm in canada maybe able find things you not available to you.

mtnhillbilly Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Mar 2011 · 24 Mar 2011, 10:18 am

#832219

that starter you were bang on the money. wow with a frig'n big grin . it sounds like she's had a lot done to her.😍

Johnnie B Learner Dubber

13 posts · joined Mar 2011 · 3 Apr 2011, 3:41 am

#833835

I noticed you are from Ontario. You are in luck my friend for all of your Volkswagen needs.
California Import Parts, one of the biggest aftermarket VW places in the world is located in Langley, British Columbia.
They ship all over the world and have thousands of parts in stock.
Check out their website http://www.cip1.ca/
They also have a bunch of guys there to assist you with any questions. PH: +1 604 881 7858

Lucky for me, I live 30mins away from the warehouse!

Wannavee Insano Dub Head

729 posts · joined Sep 2008 · 3 Apr 2011, 5:24 am

#833840

Jeeez,living 30mins away from CIP would be dangerous to the wallet!

Johnnie B Learner Dubber

13 posts · joined Mar 2011 · 3 Apr 2011, 7:04 am

#833848

HAHA...
When I moved here from Sydney, Australia, I could not believe how cheap it was for VW parts here. I hadn't built a VW for a few years but finally bought myself a house and a few Hot VW's magazines. Next thing you know I have two Beetles in my garage and a bay window bus in a storage unit...... still looking for that elusive split window single cab though.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 3 Apr 2011, 8:03 am

#833854

Wannavee wrote:Jeeez,living 30mins away from CIP would be dangerous to the wallet!

x 2 on that

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