Wakefield Park today turned out to be a good 'shake-down' for the car - and also for the driver ❗ I felt a bit shaky at first, but soon got the hang of it.
The Beetle felt a bit slower, but much 'tighter' - probably due to the roll-cage. All seemed fine, with no real problems.......except the brakes.🥲
I am now considering disc brakes as a possible option. Is there anything available to suit wide 5, link-pin, swing-axle? Would appreciate any help.
Cheers, Greg
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great you're back in the sadle!
vintage VW do a nice "zero offset" for the front
Have a look at the VVDS brakes there tops ive had a set on my car for 3 years now
What happens when the the Discs wear out on the VVDS kit? isn't it a one piece disc with the bolt circle and disc as one? Is it hard to find/ expensive to replace?
otherwise there is CSP from Germany - good kit just a bit pricey but the standard kit is about the same money as the VVDS kit when delivered, its when you start having vented discs that it becomes a bit much.
http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/cshop2/front/shop_main.cgi?func=rubrik&wkid=75224028604&rub1=Wheels%20%2F%20Brakes&rub2=Brake%20SystemsBMW R65 LS
1967 1300 Deluxe
Swing-axles FTW
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PIcs pics pics!
Good to see you brushed urself off from the other and just got stuck back in mate 👍
would have broke ur heart when the first one rolled.
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Hi Greg,
Glad to hear you have your bum back in the seat.
Here is a link to the rear wide 5 disc brake kits and I'm sure he would sell the fronts as well, just ask.
Click HERE for the Link and scroll to the bottom of the page.
Kev
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Click here for my (slowy) modded 1961 Beetle build.VVDS did a lot of research on the materials to use to make the Disc Rotors
After 3 years mine DO NOT show any wear on the rotors probally after 10 years they may
The pads are current model and available
The CSP kit is nice but widens the track by 10 to 20 mm
and the brake pads are unknown dont know what there off
Good stuff Greg... can't wait to see some pics !!!
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Cheers for that Dave, i've often wondered how the VVDS kit held up, I forgot that the CSP kit adds track too!
The brake pads for CSP are GM ones, I think they say 48mm but what does that really mean...
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1967 1300 Deluxe
Swing-axles FTW
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Pleased to find a set of 356 drum brakes ( my 1st choice). They were on The Samba, and I grabbed them quickly. I know the seller - in the U.S - so they should turn up.😎
This means that my 'drum brake' fetish will be maintained.😂
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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Swing-axles FTW
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Greg,
Well done.
Keep up the lapping and the scraping for many years to come.
countrybuggybill
Photo update received from Greg and posted with his permission.
Kev
I thought rebuilding a VW would be cheap - Shit I was wrong, just don't let the wife know !!!!
Click here for my (slowy) modded 1961 Beetle build.Thanks Kev.
The Wakefield Park shots were take on 6th October. Although the body roll has increased, due mainly to softer rear torsion bars - and perhaps the extra weight of the roll-cage, the rear grip has improved.
Dave, now you can see what the holes in the roof were for. I don't think I imagined it - high speed stability seemed better.👍
Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
nice little spoiler it would have to help
Greg do u want some type 3 rear torsion bars whats in there now isnt it the origional floor and suspension ??
Yes Dave, the chassis and suspension are original, but I've tried even softer rear torsion bars (machined thinner). This allows more rear load on the comp. spring, giving more roll, which means more neg. camber (only works for swing-axle)👍 Still running the same rear camber - 2.5 deg. negative.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
Hi Greg,
Looks great!! I'm glad that little spoiler has helped too,
Cheers
Shaun
BMW R65 LS
1967 1300 Deluxe
Swing-axles FTW
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Looks great Greg, dont know if they'd work on 356 drums (probably not) but in Fvee we run diaphrams on the back drums (as you probably know) perhaps they might fit, or something else could be made up? But they make sure that if a drum fails you dont do a mid-air swan lake impression😂!!!!!
That's not a bad idea, stagvee40, although the 356 drums are very strong. The original VW drums are good too - it's the repro. drums that are a worry.
I've now driven the car with the 356 brakes, and once I feel confident in them, they will be fine. The extra weight of the roll cage etc. has reduced the 'punch' out of corners, but the car feels stable, and hopefully will lap Wakefield Park close to previous times. Looking forward to the Supersprints on May, 21st.
Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
I heard the rumours from DBUG, but refused to believe it!!!
****"I am now considering disc brakes as a possible option."****
Now DBUG (DrumBrakeUserGroup) are sad to see G...Gr... er' this man? leave the group after a lifetime of good service.
But, in a positive spirit, the Group, wish him well in his future endeavours, but need to remind "him" of his DBUG commitments.
Firstly, "he" must return the rest of the can of BLACK paint and accept the PINK can for the mandatory respray.
Secondly, when the di... "other" brake thingies are installed he must return his driving shoes and here after, race in stilettos.
These should also come in handy when he takes up his free entry into next years Mardigras in his pink "beasty".
Thirdly, you will no longer be considered to be an "OldFart".
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Oh, 'And by the way.......... Greg, those crappy old 356 drum brakes........ which you bought "really cheap"........ which were crap on the track......they can't be worth too much now, can they?
I could help you offload them...really cheaply.... just to get them out of the shed??
Lance.
(Now: Sole member of DBUG - looking for new(old) members - bring your own BLACK paint!)
oldtub356 wrote:I heard the rumours from DBUG, but refused to believe it!!!
****"I am now considering disc brakes as a possible option."****
Now DBUG (DrumBrakeUserGroup) are sad to see G...Gr... er' this man? leave the group after a lifetime of good service.
But, in a positive spirit, the Group, wish him well in his future endeavours, but need to remind "him" of his DBUG commitments.
Firstly, "he" must return the rest of the can of BLACK paint and accept the PINK can for the mandatory respray.
Secondly, when the di... "other" brake thingies are installed he must return his driving shoes and here after, race in stilettos.
These should also come in handy when he takes up his free entry into next years Mardigras in his pink "beasty".
Thirdly, you will no longer be considered to be an "OldFart".
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Oh, 'And by the way.......... Greg, those crappy old 356 drum brakes........ which you bought "really cheap"........ which were crap on the track......they can't be worth too much now, can they?
I could help you offload them...really cheaply.... just to get them out of the shed??
Lance.
(Now: Sole member of DBUG - looking for new(old) members - bring your own BLACK paint!)
OMG ... is this true????
Will this bloke of which you speak be also changing to double joint rear suspension???????
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Don't worry Lance, I'm still a fully-paid-up member of DBUG! None of those dicks brakes for me. I was just seeing who would bite.😏
Just keep your gravy-stained fingers OFF my 356 drums, thank you - get those ones out of your safe, and use them!👍
And Matt, mind your language, please. D#@^*e J#%*@t rear suspension, indeed!🙄
Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
Quote:"Will this bloke of which you speak be also changing to double joint rear suspension???????"
IRS??.....Ever worse........I also heard that he was considering a MINI....phurt....pht...phtt I feel like I just swallowed a rat!
Oh the times, they are a'changin'.
If you blokes keep using this terrible language, I hope that the Mods. will step in. Not sure what they will step in, though.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
Greg?...Greg, all is forgiven...you've seen the light...Alleluia Brothers...... the prodigal has returned to the flock...all is forgiven.
DBUG rulz!!!! Aaaand the FIRST Register also welcomes you back (FyukeIRSTransmittion)
Matt you should be ashamed of doubting Good OLD Greg!!
Aaaaaaaaand the SAAB [Swing Axles Are Best] Club
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
yep the SAAB club is tops
Yep, the SAAB guys are pretty cool with their SVELT ladies (Six Volt Electric Light Tramps)
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oldtub356 wrote:Matt you should be ashamed of doubting Good OLD Greg!!
Nah...I knew it couldn't be true....some old buggers are as stubborn as all hell, but you know, even 356's UPgraded to dare I say it....disc brakes.............
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