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JOE568 Casual Dubber

21 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#840932
Hey guys,
i have a 68 notchback and had the engine rebuilt not long ago.....its only a weekend driver and not done alot since....turn the key and the motor spins very slow like a flat battery or bad starter motor...i feel its getting worse..ive checked a few things out like bad connections,drop tests ect..........ive noticed that if i push the clutch in while trying to start,it starts no worries??....has anyone had this problem??....

PurpleT3 Fahrvergnugen

880 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#840950
Problem with gear box?
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#840971
As above if the problem goes away with the clutch in then the problem is in the gearbox

Checked the gearbox oil level recently?
Hows it drive/shift?

Oh and welcome to here 👍

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#840973
JOE568 wrote:Hey guys,
i have a 68 notchback and had the engine rebuilt not long ago.....its only a weekend driver and not done alot since....turn the key and the motor spins very slow like a flat battery or bad starter motor...
i feel its getting worse..ive checked a few things out like bad connections,drop tests ect..........
ive noticed that if i push the clutch in while trying to start , it starts no worries??...

.has anyone had this problem??....

Hi and welcome to AVD

it sounds like You have pressure from Your gearbox which means the clutch needs adjusting .. maybe...
or replacing??
clutch plate is dragging on pressure plate/flywheel ??

jack up the rear, so the rear wheels are off the ground and hand brake OFF ... be careful..
and see if it starts easier... if it does start easier then Your clutch is the problem.. if not.. ??
maybe the transmission oil is too thick??

cheers

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#840974
It may only be that the transmission oil is very cold, and this [combined with a 'new' engine] is causing a lot of drag. Is it a bit cold where you live? It's bloody freezing at our place at present! Keep depressing the clutch when cranking the engine - unless you are hearing nasty noises.

Cheers, Greg
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#840977
Is it still 6 Volt???

where are You located?

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

JOE568 Casual Dubber

21 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#840979
Cheers,
gearbox oil was the first thing i checked......it does seem to get better when its warmed up...i had the flywheel skimmed when the motor was being rebuilt but they said the clutch was good to re-run....but il try what lee says this weekend.......

also.....im running a rancho box with a super diff ect..whitch was new when i did the motor,i put a new scat t-bar shifter on and set it up as best as possible.....gear changing is stiff......should it be??...

JOE568 Casual Dubber

21 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#841393
Hey,
im 20min drive inland from the goldcoast.........its a 12v system.


I took it for a drive this weekend and had no problems.......didnt get arround to getting my stands underneith and trying that method of yours lee.....will do soon.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#842073
When did you have the box built and when the engine? wondering if problem noticed from engine build or since box build?

If starts easier with clutch in then a box problem unless the clutch not disengaging properly.

What is the comp reading of the cylinders like? If battery and starter are old then good comp will stress the starter system and show the weak point.
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ragged Just ask if you need HELP!

478 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#842138
Do you have an earth strap connecting the gearbox to the chassis?

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#842144
I had a similar problem in November - in the end decided it may be the starter motor going. I took it out to get it checked, then found the 2 long machine screws that hold it together were loose (see photo). I tightened them up and re-fitted it, and haven't had a problem since (touch wood).

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JOE568 Casual Dubber

21 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#842758
Hey...........thanks for your replys....since my first post it has got worse....pushing the clutch in doesnt seem to do much and ive tried what lee says,still the same......il try what jeff says.......i put the new motor in and the new box at the same time along with a new aftermarket starter motor and new battery........earth strap to the gearbox is good....once the engine is warm its fine,can stop and start all day no probs..........fingers crossed loose bolts on the starter!!...

cheers guys...