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68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#842414
Well, it pays to keep your eyes open.

I took the fam for a ride the other day, and just happened to glance into a backyard, and saw the following:



I then preceded to knock on his door, and 'queried' his lil gem in the back yard. Turns out, he wants it gone. So, we organized a 'viewing'.

This is what we found:






It appears to be in pretty good nick. Turns out it is a 71 that has been imported. All we have to do is try and find out if it was imported as a 'vert' or if it was 'verted' over here.

The lil fella has:
IRS
McPherson strut front end
Minimal rust: mainly in the sealing lips under the bonnet and deck lid
Only the one main ding, which is the size of a baseball in the left rear quarter

Soooo... we made him an offer, we haggled, and we agreed on an undisclosed amount of beer tokens, and hopefully pick it up in the next few days if weather permits (and my tow guy doesn't get bogged). 🤓

Plans: Well..... I 'did' have plans to do some major work to the "Green Hornet", buuut, seeing as that is currently running fine, I was thinking of doing the 'Citrus Sweetheart" first, as a 'test bed' so to speak. The green hornet was for the missus, but given it has the sube donk, and I am part sube, she has relinquished it to me, and has now claimed the orange 'thing'.
We are yet undecided on what we are going to do to it externally... or what ticker we will give it (I will now have a spare EA82T in the near future as the 'Green Hornet' is getting open heart surgery and getting a new dicky ticker).

Will keep you all posted as things come about.... and as ideas reveal themselves.

Actually....... We are open to ideas....who knows, we may dedicate it to the people of AussieVeeDubbers and rebuild it with ideas from here (that all depends on what gets submitted of course).

To kick it off, we have thought bout:
Doing it its original Orange
Doing it "Rat" style (keeping it festy 😂)
Doing it Matt black with pearl white sides, and parts of the bonnet (there is a matchbox car painted in the mentioned style that inspired the idea), with a black interior, with sheet metal door cards... and various little touches.

The floor is open Ladies and gentlemen!
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#842559
if you are going to put it back on the road .
before you spent money ,I would check with the RTA etc that you can do it.

ej20t like my old girl . heaps of fun.
😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#842579
I have been trying to track the vehicle history down, and have had 'some' luck..... tho I don't think it was an import, as no documentation can be found on it.

Spoke to VIC roads, and they have had it on their system since 1994 as a convertible ('Tourer' in their terms) with no record of an engineers cert. But, good ol RTA require one regardless.


Still, for the price, it is hard to pass up. Even with an engineers cert, it will make it a cheap bug.

Tha missus is keen!👍🤘😍 and that's all that matters.



(so I have been told)

👎
👍


P.S. Yes, that is supposed to be a thumb on the forehead 😂
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#842635
It's very unlikely its an import.
Have a look under the hood the compliance plate next to the hood latch will tell you.

Both my aus made 71 supers say motor producers limited
meets Australian Design Rules blah blah blah then its an aus made superbug.
from 72 they say Volkswagenwerk AG to meet ADR nos xxxxx

Imports after 70 will say Made in Germany with nothing about ADRs

Like Ian said do some research before you put any money into it.
As the engineers scrutinize choptop convertables very thoroughly to weed out the poorly strengthened ones.

Also the rollbar needs to be connected to the bracing in the under the floorpan, down the rear wheel arches and across to the windscreen.

Alot of the ones converted in the 80s when they weren;t as tough only have a roll bar welded to the body where the B pillars are lopped off and thats it.
None of those ones will pass engineers certificate as is, I;ve seen several that have been modified to pass.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#842643
wont be an import

best thing on that cars is the Bathurst globes
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Golde60 Fahrvergnugen

858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#842650
judging by the sticker on the windscreen it was done by imported car wreckers, in springvale, melbourne

owner is mark holyoake, i used to get my car serviced out there many moons ago. he might know a bit about the car.

look em up and give em a ring
...................( O \ l / O ).....................

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#842657
Thanks all for your replies so far.

@ Golde60 - I managed to track him down this arvo and had a good chat to him. He does not remember the vehicle, but thinks it may have just come in for servicing and someone slapped a sticker on there. He was amazed that I tracked him down from a sticker and took the time to ring him.

He agrees that it is not an import, after I told him that the Department of Transport and Regional Services (Car Import Division) had no records of it being imported. He too suggested I check the plate in the front, but as the vehicle is not readily available to look at, I will have to see when I get it(Which at the moment......weather permitting.. is tomorrow night).

As for not buying it.. I have already told the guy that I will take it...and at $500, why not?

Will keep ya's up to date with progress.

N 😀
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#842718
What does it say on the rego lable? Hang onto that if it has anything sugesting Roaster or convertible. This will help with re registering it.
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#842731
It's not a NSW rego sticker in the windscreen, either an SA or Vic one, which makes sense if imported used to work on it, sadly interstate rego doesnt mean much to the RTA.

As long as the engine and gearbox is good its worth the money, but convertables are rust traps, especially when they've been laid up out doors like that one has.

rustydub Learner Dubber

18 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#842809
Nice pick-up, how many spiders:? you know that the colours in your drive way now clash - you should sell it to the 'Golden Oldy' up the road..

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#842821
Welcome RustyDub.

Your on a forum? So, it is true. You can teach an old dog new tricks! 👍

Cheers for the help unloading the orange 'Thing'.

Dog poo and spiders included.
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#842824
Well, we took delivery of the orange 'Thing' tonight (thanks RustyDub for the helping hand).

It all started with:



(Look...Its RustyDub)








Busted.... That is not a happy smile.... It is a 'Hurry up and take the damn photo woman.. There is something crawling up my leg" smile.🤪

First things first: Wrap it in tarps and Mortein bomb the lil critters. Then, out with the Karcher for a well earned tubsing. Then, the Full Monty.

Cheers
N
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

baghall Ben Hal Outlaw Bushranger

1,021 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#842977
Good find, just what I'm looking for as a donor car.
68 Baja - It's a growing pain!
58 Baja ute - and the pain spreads!
85 T3 Kombi - still growing
89 T3 Kombi - parts car

rustydub Learner Dubber

18 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#844149
Nice truck mate, what did you do with the Beetle???????

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#847367
Well,

Stripping has begun on the orange thing. Not too bad in the rust department:

















Bottom of the right door well


Inside right tire well


Left foot well and heater channel (Seems to be the worst)


Front lip


Right bonnet lip

And


Most of it is surface rust, but that is about it so far. I am sure a lil bit more will reveal itself once paint stripping has started and after blasting.

I managed to purchase myself a nice Mig welder on the weekend, so that I can practice and do all the work myself.

We are getting closer on a paint scheme and style. I think I might keep it quiet for now, and let it reveal itself as it goes.




(Hi 'RustyDub'. NOTE: Yes, we are grown men wearing gloves working on a car, but anyone who knows what the temps are like in Canberra at this time of year at 8pm, know that it is damn cold!)

After sitting idle for 5-6 years, decided to have a fiddle with the Donk. Was a bit of messen round involved, as it had an immobilizer fitted. 'RustyDub' lent us one of his batteries, which gave us life. At first, it wouldn't turn over. There was just a ticking sound coming from the engine. We then brainstormed and worked out that it was probably the immobilizer.

I managed to track the wires from the ignition barrel to the immobilizer, then the wires from the immobilizer to the donk, cut them and joined them.

Turn the key...... and it turned over. But still no life. Pulled the dizzy cap off and noticed that there was no spark, so out with the multi meter. After much stuffing around and resetting of the gap, it finally had spark.

Off with the carby cover to fill the bowl with some much needed motion lotion...turn the key....
and




Oh, and 'The Green Hornet" sitting lonely and untouched in the driveway 😢
🤓
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

annosL Officially Full-On Dubber

378 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#847398
you made a good deal there!

rustydub Learner Dubber

18 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#847549
I just had a thought Volkaru, we should build a heated tunnel from your shed to mine, especially now that you have a heater in your shed. All the parts have turned up for me to put WeiBer back together.You will have to come up and show me how to put pictures on the the forum so others can see what a VW packed street we live in. (Mr & Mrs RustyDub have 2 Beetles, 1 Type 3 and a Polo in a pear tree)

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#860540
Not much to report unfortunately, citrus has been nearly stripped of everything now bar the engine and left rear guard, then will come the paint stripper.
Waiting on warmer weather and our neighbour Rusty dub to recover from surgery to give me helping hand whilst Neil is deployed overseas.

Will post pics one the paint stripping begins 😁

cheers
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

rustydub Learner Dubber

18 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#860566
We should have a go at one of the guards this weekend to see whats under the citrus, and that will be straight after we find you some gears of cause. And you fit my new sexy running boards.....guess you didn't know that you are fitting them for me whilst my wing is out of action.
Cheers, RustyDub

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#860872
hahaaaa
No prob's I can fit he running boards for ya 😂
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

rustydub Learner Dubber

18 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#860962
Cool, we can use your smooth plastic ramps, you will find them better to drive on. I don't think I can get my right hand on the steering wheel yet.

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#896342
Well, it has been a while since I have updated this. Been a while since I worked on the car actually. I am now back, and have been pottering around in the garage over the past few weeks. I managed to score the Easter weekend to work on the 'vert' (thank you darling wife 😍), with the help of a mate from melb and a local from ol jerra.

I will let the pics do the talking from now. (Maybe the odd comment tho😂)

Wednesday night saw the donk lifted onto the work bench.... a few beers.... and....







With the donk now stripped, ready for cleaning, research for part acquisition and then re-assebly. This will hopefully happen in the next few months as time and funds allow.

Thursday: Bits here and there and the turning of a dryer tumbler into a fire drum...

Friday:
I then thought it was time to split the shell from the chassis, cept I ran into a couple of hurdles. Who ever did the 'chop', decided to spot weld the shell/chassis bolts to the washers..... and then spot weld the washers to the new rails....😬



But, a bit of this......







and I was able to get the shifter (only thing that would fit) onto the washers



We then spent the next hour undoing all the remaing bolts and little bits and pieces that held the two together.

Let there be LIGHT!


Partial light that is. The shell would not come off. So, another 45 minutes of poking around, reading the manual, googling/utubing and I finally stood at the back and visually separated the two, and found this little fella:



A quick blind date with the ol grinder, and....




Saturday I was flying solo, so I decided to have a crack at repairing the dash from where the previous owner had butchered the radio slot, and had aslo inserted some random switches....



Prepping:




My first go at welding sheet metal this thin:






Not a bad result, tho I am not really happy with it. Not after using the KCW resto site as inspiration. Those guys are magicans.

Sunday i was again flying solo, and decided that i wanted to make a dolly for the shell to move around on. I thought about using some to the random bits of frame work that has been added to underneath the chassis, and to get to that, i had to strip it down.

Next road block!

The rear hub nuts, both left and right, were seized on. No amount of persuasion was going to get these lil lads off. With a breaker bar and the addition of an extended bar, only saw the rear wheels turning on the concrete (Handbrake on AND in gear).

then i got a bigger hammer:
First:


NOPE!

A snappy trip to bunnings for a butane torch for some heating with rapid cooling.. and some more heating..

Then I whipped this up.... buuuut....



But, I won in the end. Me 1 - Nuts - 0


With a few hurdles on the drums (left rear pads wound out to the max so the drum would not come off - a mild soaking of WD-40 and i finally removed them).

Then, one of the little hex head drive shaft bolt inners had been stripped, so some more messing around with a cutting disc and a cold chisel:






and finally:


Monday saw the making of a rear dolly (will get pics later) and that was about it.

Plan on repairing the rust in the shell, and replacing the floor pans when i get the parts. I have more than enough parts that need cleaning in the 'quiet hours' to keep me going for a few weeks.
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#896504
Thanks for that Bizzare. I was wondering how I was going to either repair (even thinner to weld 😬) or somehow replace.

I will deff be adding that to my 'to get' list.

nice beetle by the way 👍
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#896519
68Volkaru wrote:Thanks for that Bizzare. I was wondering how I was going to either repair (even thinner to weld 😬) or somehow replace.

I will deff be adding that to my 'to get' list.

nice beetle by the way 👍
keep up the good work,
you can buy that seal at clark rubber.
😂🤪😂🤪😂
car forums. where a lot of peoples good intentions end up taking a good old car off the road forever never ever to see the road again. 🥲

69bug Officially Full-On Dubber

300 posts · joined Jan 2012 ·

#896677
love your work so far!
1969 1500

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#896943
Thanks Mezz, I'll go have a checkers.

Thanks 69bug.

Got a bit of work done today. Mainly just working on stripping paint for rust repair.

(NOTE: Dolly that I made last weekend on the rear. Works well. just need to make one for the front, so I dont have to lift it and drag it around🤪)


Right heater rails:




****** Does anyone know if i can get the thin strips that sit ontop of the chanels? Mine are a little rusty at the B pillar and also dinged up, and i was hoping to remove them and weld in some newbies.


Wiiith a lil bit of work ahead of me.🥲

Looking forward to it actually. I have stumbled accross an awesome sheet metal fab forum, where the guy goes into detail regarding the bending and manipulation of sheet metal. He makes it look easy of course, but, ya gotta start somewhere eh😎



Cleaned out the back. Not back to bare metal yet....




After the tip from Bizzare regarding the rubber seal lips, I got in and removed them (I reckon those spot weld drill bits are the shiz kniz 👍 )


More work 😬 (Not looking forward to this bit)



Still have the right side to go. Wanted to show the missus how AWESOME the spot weld drill bit was.


Will finish taking off the lip seal tomorrow, and finish up using the wire wheel (twisted wire wheels on a grinder are up there as the shiz kniz😂) and then I will get in with the paint stripper and do the big panel stuff. If timing goes well, I might even have a crack at some rust repair.

Not happy with how the dash turned out😬.

Have an idea to use a modern steering wheel, so all the 'accessories' will be on the colum stalks...... so, I am planning on cutting out my last effort of welding, and also plug up all the holes so as to have a smooth clean dash.
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

cam070 Custom Title Time!

1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·

#896971
You should try taking the lip seal metal off using a screwdriver and hammer. That's how I removed mine front and back, just using the screwdriver like a chisel. No filling required once it's gone and just a quick clean with a wire wheel and job done!

68Volkaru Slammed & Awesome Dubber

80 posts · joined Apr 2011 ·

#897002
cam070 wrote:You should try taking the lip seal metal off using a screwdriver and hammer. That's how I removed mine front and back, just using the screwdriver like a chisel. No filling required once it's gone and just a quick clean with a wire wheel and job done!
Cheers for that. Will keep it in mind. Wont need it for the rear tho... as I have plans for that. Plus, I like any excuse to weld😂

After my dash, I need all the experience I can get.🥲
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.