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gerggl Wolfsburg Wizard

447 posts · joined Sep 2010 ·

#848828
Hi .. now that I have committed myself to using some stainless steel bolts any advice on the best anti seize to use ..Loctite??
I know I am stupid but all I want is the best for my baby!
Greg Gordon-Lane

Brisbane


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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#848846
gerggl wrote:Hi .. now that I have committed myself to using some stainless steel bolts any advice on the best anti seize to use ..Loctite??
I know I am stupid but all I want is the best for my baby!
no ...
loctite will only stop the bolts from undoing...
it locks them on....
Use a Neverseize or a Copper type of neverseize in spray cans
or wipe on type...

these stop the bolts from binding onto the steel nuts...
use with flat and spring washers and they won't come off..

Lee
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#848847
I have used loctite products with success...
if You don't want the bolts to unscrew...

it can also make the bolts very difficult to undo....

especially small screws and bolts..

LEE
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#848858
coppercoat?????
does that sound right damo
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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#848865
Copper coat grease is pretty good for a lot of things.
Can be used on threads for anti seize, especially exhaust system bolts, because even once any grease burns away, a coat of copper is still remaining.
Also used on some gaskets.
Good on spark plug threads.
Maintains good electrical contact due to the copper content.
Light smear on the back of brake pads to help reduce or prevent squealing.
Dont use on bearings.
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gerggl Wolfsburg Wizard

447 posts · joined Sep 2010 ·

#848959
I have been told that nickel anti seize is the goods ... this one .... LOCTITE 77164 NICKEL ANTI-SEIZE COMPOUND ....has anyone used this before?

Thanks for the discussion guys ..all this really helps ...I do not want to go the other way and spend heaps of $$$ just on broken bolts .... I am a litle anal of what needs to be done and more than anal on doing the right thing ...so again .. all advice is very warmly received!
Greg Gordon-Lane

Brisbane


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STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#848978
tap threads out by hand with trefolex DONT use a drill, dont even get it warm, the stuff is toxic if heated, smells bad enough when cool anyway!
then use bostick never-seeze and in 10yrs time when you need to take something out again & it comes out like the day you put it in remember who said it 👍
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Lucky Phil Wolfsburg Wizard

480 posts · joined Aug 2010 ·

#849276
I have an original can of 'Neverseeze" which is at least 30 years old. I use it all the time and it is still half full.
A little goes a long way.
It is a nickel based product and i will swear by it. I use it on anything that is going to get a hard time from heat, moisture etc.
It is a must on all alloy head spark plugs.
I have used coppercoat before and it seems ok, but I prefer the nickel based stuff.

bigdave Officially Full-On Dubber

329 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·

#849683
Neversieze is good gear. Same as Lucky Phil - had the same tin for many years. Be careful tho, you only need to look sideways at the stuff and its all over you. Bitch to get off too.

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#849689
Aussie Dubbin wrote:lee have you noticed I meant a loctite version of neverseize. Used some more tonight. $9 and it will last a long time
probably didn't.. lol

many never seizes have metallic particles in it...

loctite low strength threadlocker is ok to stop nuts from coming off bolts etc... its just a plastic type of stuff that goes hard and acts like a self locking nut.. there was medium and a strong one too... I'm talking 15 years ago ...lol
and most of those products weren't safe...
they maybe now...??

but neverseize is usually ok.. I believe...

I use it when torquing up bolts & nuts...

Lee
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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#849690
68AutoBug wrote:
Aussie Dubbin wrote:lee have you noticed I meant a loctite version of neverseize. Used some more tonight. $9 and it will last a long time
probably didn't.. lol

many never seizes have metallic particles in it...

loctite low strength threadlocker is ok to stop nuts from coming off bolts etc... its just a plastic type of stuff that goes hard and acts like a self locking nut.. there was medium and a strong one too... I'm talking 15 years ago ...lol
and most of those products weren't safe...
they maybe now...??

but neverseize is usually ok.. I believe...

I use it when torquing up bolts & nuts...

Lee
Lee. Loctite don't just make threadlocking compound. They have a massive variety of products from glues, threadlocking, antiseize, gasket makers, and puttys, etc etc.


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Uber Kafer Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·

#849819
And having gone on that little excursion away from the topic... You can always trust someone to fly off on a tangent with rhetoric or a well debunked Furphy.

But... the answer to the original question is yes! Loctite is one of the best Nickel-based anti-sieze compounds to use, but really there arent many brands on the market and its not the sort of thing that cheap manufacturers are interested in. The other brand readily available in Nickel-based is Permatex. And for copper based anti-sieze compounds you can get one called Copper-Coat.

A 200g (240ml) container will probably outlest several generations of your family. Its used sparingly.

As for galvanic reaction when using stainless in proximity to other metals, be aware that it can accelerate the corrosion on other materials. For example, a zinc plated washer under a stainless nut or bolthead may look like crap after only about 12 months.