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norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#855801
Have reflectors that have rust spots on the silver plating. What do people normally do (eg. chrome) or rather than silver electrolysis has any one tried the silver spray on plating?

Thanks
Norbert
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#855818
My Son had his early beetle headlight reflectors chromed...
excellent looking...

tough too...

cheaper to replace with new sealed beam H4 or semi sealed H4
headlamps...
semi sealed Hellas have flat glass lens...
sealed beam hella h4 are curved lenses...

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#855829
I have had quite a few reflectors and bumpers re chromed over the years and it has been very successful. Coffs Chrome or Hamilton Chrome in Islington both do excellent work.

norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#855850
Thanks Guy's,

Looks like chroming is the way to go.

Norbert
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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#855893
🤪 ok then.

you know hella still manufacture reflectors with the proper Aluminum deposition.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

REDKG Officially Full-On Dubber

327 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#856053
chrome is wrong, gives off a 'black' light. should be silver plated or the modern aluminium coating.

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#856055
vw heritage in the UK sell genuine hella reflectors and Lenses.

Lenses are German made and the reflectors are make in the UK hella factory.

I did my snooping before I contacted James as vw heratage. I crosschecked all the PNs on hella's site and located which factories they are made in.

Was like 40 or 24 GBP to send 2 lenses and 2 reflectors. I forgot which prices it was 😀

I also have 2 NOS reflectors leftover in my cupboard 😏 95-98% good

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#856094
Vlad,

The reflectors that you have will they fit or are they the same as a 1961 KG? if so, are you willing to sell them?

Norbert
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VW-VARIANT-L Seriously Crusin Dubber

154 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#856141
The KG lenses and reflectors are smaller diameter than the beetle/ type 3 units, so DO NOT fit.

VW Heritage lists all the other parts for Type 1 KG European/ Australian headlight assemblies EXCEPT the reflectors. I don't believe these are being made new.

The RHD lenses are listed at 85 pounds each.

They have sealed beam units listed, but these mount differently. They also have complete LHD assemblies for 179 pounds each, not sure if these are European type and can have the lenses changed for RHD.

If you think it is hard/ expensive getting type 1 ghia parts, try finding parts for the Type 3 KG

norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#856293
Hi VW-Variant,

Sometimes they come up on the german ebay. If you type Scheinwerfer and keep looking they will eventually come up.

Norbert
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#856303
As redkg said you will have shitty lights if you just get the reflectors ordinary chrome dipped.

It looks as though Euro and Aus spec Ghias ran the Hella clip together style headlights like bug, baywindow and type 3 just with different rims and the adjusters in different location.





Suppliers all seem to market the newer semi-sealed lights that fit bug/type3 and baywindow as fitting KGs though.
Depends how original you want to be.

You can get the original Hella clip together style lights in RHD lenses here in Aus but they aint cheap at $170 each and are only in bug/type3/kombi style by the looks



Unless you aiming for totally stock OEM i wouldn't bother with the old clip together style, they are a shitty design and VW swapped to semi-sealed on all the euro/aus spec cars in 74 for a reason.

norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#856317
Hi Joel,

You're right, and I know its a bit anal, but would to stay as stock as possible understanding that they are a b!@#h to adjust and not particularly bright. Have bought driving lights for that reason.
If I change my mind, there is another option which is reasonably standard and will fit and are not to expensive in the US and accommodate the H4 lights that I was looking at.

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#856348
That's the setup I run in mine now, you can get all that here in Aus.

norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#856417
Joel,
Great, would prefer to buy them here. Who stocks them?
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norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#856433
Joel,
Great, would prefer to buy them here. Who stocks them?
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#856607
You can get them through Autobahn etc but I got mine on Ebay through Ringwood Auto parts.

If you want curved glass ones which look like original curved glass VW lights you want these ones

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/7-HALOGEN-CURVED-GLASS-HEADLIGHT-INSERT-KIT-NEW-/330444143071?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf00179df


Or the flat glass like the ones you posted above are

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HEADLIGHT-7-HALOGEN-HEADLIGHT-INSERT-KIT-BRAND-NEW-/280230457761?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item413f0971a1



To fit any of them though you are going to need a pair of mounting buckets

https://www.classicveedub.com.au/cvd_new/part_detail.aspx?parts_id=11447

norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#856636
Thanks Joel.
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grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#857062
hi, i am also looking to fix my ghia lights. the set up last spoken of, from autobahn/ebay, is wot joel put on his car? if so is it a kg or a beetle. one earlier post said kg and bug are diff. please let us know if u use this setup, how it goes on u kg. thanks greg

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#857113
Greg, it's in a bug

If you're starting from scratch and want to use ones like that you need those mounting buckets which fix them in the guards and adjust the aim then just pick the type you like.

A Ghia would look best with the curved glass headlights as they match the originals quite well.

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#857157
thanks joel, do u know if the original headlight surrounds fit the same. the chrome trim that is

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#857187
I haven't had anything to do with KG headlights but if they are anything like bug ones which they certainly look same design once something is mounted in there the rims can be bolted back on to cover it up yes.