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jaksc Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#855747
I'm having a go at screwing together a 1776 for everday use. What compression ratio do i need to run. Doing the measurements it is currently at 9:1. How do i go about raising it or lowering it. Thanks Aaron

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#855754
was it just a displacment change or other things as well?

jaksc Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#855780
Had a 1776 built afew years ago by a reputed vw specialist. Had too much end float movement from when it was built. Had about 1000miles on it. Stripped it down and couldn't find anyone to put it back together. Lots of brand new parts. So having a go myself. just need to be pointed in the right direction. Aaron

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#855793
So it's stockfish or big cam, heads etc?

Counterweighted balanced?

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#855794
And how have you worked out the c.r?

jaksc Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#855797
Basically stock. Aaron

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#855816
spacers under the barrels or "flycutting' the heads or combo of both

jaksc Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#855844
What compression ratio do i need? Aaron

jaksc Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#856056
Anyone with some tech advice on what ratio I should use. What does it depend on.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#856068
low 8's??

9 is a tad high for a stockish motor - but what would I know

It all depends on the cam, heads, valve size, deck height and a whole heap of experience.

Did you cc the heads??
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Ollie Yeah Buddy

840 posts · joined Oct 2009 ·

#856121
Go 14.5:1 and you'll just love it 🙂

I lie.

As all above have mentioned, A good strong engine is the sum of it's parts, rather than one standout performance enhancement.

IMO a stockish 1776 would benefit from somewhere between 8 and 8.5:1 compression. It should give it that extra zap without causing too much stress to the engine.

That said, I could be so far wrong It's not funny!

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BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#856150
My old 1776 with stock bottom end, mild port and polish and W100 cam had about 8.5/9 ish.

But in the end, that was selected by the engine builder based on the engine combo.
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jaksc Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#856180
I worked out the ratio by
cyl volume + head volume + deck height volume
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head volume + deck volume
Stroke = 69mm
I am getting confused. Am i going to to much trouble. Just bolt the barrels down and forget about it. Thanks Aaron

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#856221
check your answer against this calculator

http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/specgeninfo/calcs.htm

We are just saying 9 is on the high side
You could put a small spacer under the barrels or open the heads up a bit
The spacer mucks you deck height up and that mucks "squish" up

You could whack it all together and see what happens - you might just have to run 98 octane to keep pinging at bay
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Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#856235
Impossible to say without knowing what cam you've got.

jaksc Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#856378
Bizarre, I used the calculator and came up with a figure of 8:1 ratio. I think I am going to go with just bolting everything up as is. There was a lot more involved to this topic than I thought. Thanks for the help guys. Aaron

RISKY4LIFE Officially Full-On Dubber

308 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#856383
i think that you could run upto 8.5 for every day use if it was built right
but im no engine builder!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#856400
jus go for it and see what happens

Only way to learn 👍
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