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These Empi kits from George, whats the quality and fit like. Is it like all the other Empi stuff I have used.
https://www.classicveedub.com.au/cvd_new/part_detail.aspx?parts_id=16878Set yourself aside around 4 hours to make it fit.
You get what you pay for, no offence to George !
Yes its Empi, george only sells it.
Does anyone make new stuff thats strong and actually fits.
clinker42 wrote:Yes its Empi, george only sells it.
Does anyone make new stuff thats strong and actually fits.
No.
As quick bug said you can make it fit but allow a lot of time
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Longer than 4 hours if you want ALL the internal vanes as well !!
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Shit
Ok
Who has a factory 36 hp doghouse shroud with the heater outlets for sale
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Not that easy dude....no such thing
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Mat
Have you ever given good news. I presume you just mean there is no such thing that was produced by the factory. As i see one listed from George, so its Empi or bust.
Does the 36 hp shrouds cool the same as the 40 hp ones?
I prefer the Scat tinware for fit, but it all needs work. Ain't my fault there's so much shit available, I just fit the stuff to a higher standard than most too.
The problem with all the aftermarket 36hp shrouds is they only weld the internal vanes to the rear skin so they can crack and come out, but if your not having stock heaters they are the best way to go.
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Ok, thanks Matt.
I will ring Vintage in the morning and see if they have a Scat shroud, then weld the vanes to the other side as you mentioned. All this crap just to fit twin carbs.
Instead of weldig the vanes, you can use polyurethane adhesive to glue insid to stop any crack causing vibrations. Saves wrecking the nice outside face.
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give VVDS a ring 02-9789-1777
they will have some that fit
why not get a normal 1600 shroud and cut the heater horns off??
Futue te ipsum!!!
Yes
its probably worse than normal EMPI [chinese made] stuff
36 HP shrouds didn't have the heater air coming from the shroud, they took the hot air from the engine as it came out underneath..
maybe they do fit 1192cc tinware???
but not a 1500 or 1600 ...
they need to be redesigned..
IF You don't want heaters plug the holes or cut them and weld a plate over them
If You want the 36hp look... YIKES
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Im not sure where you get cutting the heater horns off.
The problem is the carbs hit the shroud, as some have said, the correct manifolds can help, but i have looked at all the posts on the samba and everyone who has the 40 hp shroud has too use only the cb manifolds and then they have to remove the choke. I couldnt get cb manifolds today, plus i cannot do away with the choke, it is a mut where we live. So is the heater, looking at all the pics and posts on the samba, the 36 hp shroud is a great solution. Plus i already started cutting a 40 hp shroud and by the time i got it to where the carbs fit its looks the same as the 36 hp shroud anyway.
The 36 hp doghouse kit will turn up tomorrow and i will just have to trim and file until it fits good.
clinker42 wrote:Im not sure where you get cutting the heater horns off.
there was a "how to" somewhere. They shaved the "sides" off the shroud so as to take off the heater outlets.
It ended up looking like a 36HP.
This way it kept the original vanes inside
See what I can find
here you go
http://www.offroadvw.net/tech/brad/fanshroudtech.htm
There is another one somewhere
But you can see if you take the sides off there is still a "side" inside the shroud
Whatever..........
Ahhh..................... this is the one I was looking for
http://www.superbeetles.com/performance101/jun2.htmFutue te ipsum!!!
Ye but after 6 hours work, you just end up with a 36 hp shroud with no heater horns.
Im not sure what point your trying to make.
I can buy a 36 hp doghouse shroud with heater outlets for $90 and just bolt it in.
If i do that mod, i reckon 6 hours work, tig filler rod, gas, etc adds up to heaps more than $90. Admit it would be better quality than the Scat shroud but heck, who could really tell when its all together
So for a future 1776 with 1inch 1/2 heater boxes what tinware should i be looking out for? Can i use original 1600 tinware?
Paul
Check out the pic from my post about the dellortos hitting the shroud. Matt posted a pic of a beetle with twins on it and it has the 36 hp shroud. You can see the room it gives you near the carbs. This engine i have has the 40 hp shroud and its too tight a fit, as some have said, you can select the right manifolds and get them too fit with a 40 hp shroud, but you cannot run chokes.
I got a 36 hp shroud and it is a perfect fit and even the chokes are still on the carbs, in my opinion, the 36 hp shroud is the only way to go with twin carbs, you can get with or with out the doghouse and with or without the heater outlets.
At $90 is an easy and cheap fix.
thanks so did you get a second hand tinware or buy new? I have been told you dont need chokes on delortos?
I just got new tinware from George, who told you about the chokes. Maybe true, but i live in Wodonga, for 5 months of the year we wake up and have no water because our pipes are frozen and have to scrape ice of the windows, i want too keep the choke lol
