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Lifted/welded link pin spindles - your thoughts?

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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#870238
Does anyone run modified lifted link pin spindles on an offroad car?

If so where did u get them? what do you think of them?

Blind chicken racing in the states will make them but require a core. I dont really want to send some spindles to the USA.

I think it is too much to ask to find some country buggy spindles although they would be ideal.

Nicko
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

handycam king of something

1,338 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#870258
hay mate i ran some bj ones i didnt like them in the end looked tuff as nails but there fitment is not grate i didnt think ' these were us ones

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#870274
My 2c.

Stay away from welded stubs.

Options are convert to country buggy stubs or B/J front end
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#870278
Handycam. - Can you tell me why you did'nt like them?

Matt - I was hoping you would chime in. Do you say that due to legal reasons? or safety? Are they generally not welded square/poor quality?

Looks like I may be able to get some Country Buggy spindles afterall and obviously this is ideal. Although I wont count my Chicken yet.

Not really wanting to go Ball joint.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#870283
Mark - International tie rod ends? is this a ford tie rod end alot of american guys seem to run these? or does international mean it will take any VW end?
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

64vwmark Fahrvergnugen

930 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#870287
I'm not sure what they mean by that either. I haven't used them before. Moose or other off road racers would know. If you are thinking of buying some, you could always ask the seller.


Beach Buggy
74 L Beetle
Mk4 Golf

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#870311
The Combo Stubs are the ultimate although questionable legally. The Country buggy would be my first option as they are genuine VW and definately legal here. After that, going the combo stub route, you'll add more $$$ once you start....longer arms and shocks which bring in more issues. Inter Tie rod ends are just that, International truck tie rod ends...bloody strong, and necessary with those huge stubs and big offroad rack etc etc....

The more basic baja will handle a lot of abuse with link pin beam, country buggy stubs and an improvement in tie rod ends isn't unusual, but even increased to Ford's larger parts is doable without welding or heating suspension components.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#870314
Yeah ok.

I dont want to have to make custom tie rods etc

I am thinking CB Spindles. Gusseted Steering knuckle, Stock arms, Stock tie rod ends and strengthend stock tie rods.

Hopefully I can get some CB Spindles.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#870323
Anthiron wrote:Gusseted Steering knuckle
You won't even need to to this. When you see a set of CB stubs you will know why. They are very strong, almost twice as big as the Beetle ones.


Smiley 🙂
If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#871143
Only complaint I have with country buggy spindles are the brakes that are attached to them. The duel slave cylinders inside them us ALOT of hyd fluid, so you will need a bigger master cylinder and even then the pedal sure does go along way on top of that I swear they never worked while rolling backwards.
So defiantly confided a set of discs in your budget
Quit calling rust patina

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#871181
Can you not attach early beetle drums to them Nils? I was planning on keeping my drums all around for the time being.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#871343
Afraid not, cause they are early kombi stubs basically with the steering arms facing the wrong way. I had a look at it for a while but the axles are just way too long
Quit calling rust patina

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#871377
Ah interesting. So I would need a Split bus disc brake kit?
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#871444
Afraid so, got mine only a few weeks ago from sherman conversions. Don't know how i managed so long with those big drums on the front
Quit calling rust patina

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#871461
Thats a handy thing to know. Cheers Nils
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#872254
Anthiron wrote:Ah interesting. So I would need a Split bus disc brake kit?
I'm looking into fitting a set of CB spindles to the front of my Baja. I've been messing around with how to do the brakes this afternoon. I have some Commodore stuff here that I think will fit up quiet easily. I'll keep you posted on how things progress. Might be a little cheaper than buying the conversion kits.


Smiley 🙂
If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#872279
haha, discs pads and wheel bearings would be heaps cheap to replace to!!
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

mkII_baja Seriously Crusin Dubber

120 posts · joined Nov 2011 ·

#872324
The CB front end that is going into my project uses the same as std ford turning trailer bearings.
Trailer bearings are NEVER very good quality so OEM or aftermarket Early Kmbi or early Ford would be much better
than trailer bearings, this allows you to use a good quality steel trailer hub on the front
I'm setting up 6 stud with a floating disk setup similar to late model 4x4's!!

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#872452
Commodore disc mounted to a Country Buggy spindle.





And a picture with the caliper sitting in place.





Good things are happening, watch this space.



Smiley 🙂
If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#872468
Smiley, you're my hero.
But where where you 3 months ago? Before i dropped big $$$ on a kit😢
Quit calling rust patina

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#872648
nils wrote:Smiley, you're my hero.
But where where you 3 months ago? Before i dropped big $$$ on a kit😢
I was probably out offroading my Baja thinking, "damn I need more clearance, I should fit those CB spindles I have at home"

Then once I got looking into it I hated the drum design, as you have mentioned above. Not to mention how heavy they are!!

So I thought I'd looking into doing a disc conversion too.

I'm drawing up the caliper brackets today and going to see some engineers this afternoon hopefully.



Smiley 🙂
If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

The_Bronze. Minister of Volkswagenism

1,922 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#875421
This is a great thread. I'm following with interest.
Bronze.

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