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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#879292
HI

I didn't look at the article....

Toyota and Subaru have been working on a rear wheel drive
sports car that is affordable... [under $40,000Au]

the car is all SUBARU with Subaru engine and transmission..

Toyota will replace the front bumper to make it look a bit different... inside is all subaru..

Subaru did NOT want to sell it in Australia due to their
ALL OUR CARS ARE AWD.... policy in Australia...

but have relented.. and the car will be sold in Australia..

I wonder if Nissan will do what they did years ago with the falcon ute.. want any parts go to a ford dealer... ;lol
nissan pulsar sold by Holden - nissan engined commodores..
etc..

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

shaihulud Custom Title Time!

1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#879294
It has a predictable shape, but nowadays most cars have that cloned shape. It might be aerodynamically efficient, but it's getting just a little repetitive and boring. I now need to read the label to know what a car is.

Don't forget that towards the end of their careers, the Beatles music became repetitive and boring. We are overdue for a change in vehicle shapes.

At least it doesn't have a wanker wing on the rear end.

Subarugears Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Dec 2011 ·

#879300
....yet.....but it will. And SARD, ENKEI and RAZR stockers down the front guard....and a cannon exhaust....
It won't take long.

AyeBee Seriously Crusin Dubber

155 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#879310
Looks like a Celica to me...

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#879322
Subaru calls it the BRZ ...

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Camo Custom Title Time!

1,936 posts · joined Oct 2007 ·

#879331
I like it 👍

Thanks PAZZAN for that, will keep an eye out for them when in showrooms.

Kev
I thought rebuilding a VW would be cheap - Shit I was wrong, just don't let the wife know !!!!

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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#879367
So it has a suby engine? I thought there for a sec we had another transplant option.

"shrugs"

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

Yogie Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,608 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#879371
vlad01 wrote:So it has a suby engine? I thought there for a sec we had another transplant option.

"shrugs"
Given time we it will give more options as there will probably be more of the Toyota version sold than the Subaru due to their superior dealer numbers.

Yogie

wolfgang54 Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined May 2010 ·

#879375
from what i read, the block only was given to toyota by subaru, toyota then developed the direct injection engine from there.....essentially a toyota engine/engineering in subaru running gear. can only be a good thing!
1954 Beetle
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2007 Touareg tdi (retired)
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2011 FJ Crusier
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Wish list:

Porsche 550
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narumi I'll do it tomorrow

138 posts · joined Aug 2011 ·

#879402
FT86 in spirit of AE86
engine: FA20 / 4U-GSE
bore x stroke: 86 X 86

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#879491
68AutoBug wrote:Subaru did NOT want to sell it in Australia due to their
ALL OUR CARS ARE AWD.... policy in Australia...
What about all of the front wheel drive vehicles that they sell??


Smiley 🙂
If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#879506
^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
I dream of a day when a chicken can cross a road without being asked for it's motive!

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#879514
Hi

This car will appeal to the drifters who have been left with not many options, 86 being an iconic number in adrift circles as well, maybe Nissan will bring out another Silvia.

Steve

narumi I'll do it tomorrow

138 posts · joined Aug 2011 ·

#879805
donn wrote:^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#879913
147kw......that makes the car under powered IMO !


Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#879917
205Nm of torque at 6600rpm 🥲

My Polo is 250Nm @ 2000-4500rpm
Futue te ipsum!!!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#879922
narumi wrote:
donn wrote:^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#880031
Will be interesting

http://www.caradvice.com.au/143882/toyota-ft-86-performance-data-sheet-leaked/

It is suppose to weigh 1230-ish kg's - which, I think is bloody light. Cant see dimensions, but I am guessing it is Celica sizes??
A 2005 Silly Car weighed in at 1580kg's

My Polo only weighs 1180 kg's
A Golf R is 1,476 kg's and it's torque is 330Nm @ 2400-5200rpm

Seeing as it has AWD it just seems bloody light in the torque figures
Futue te ipsum!!!

Subarugears Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Dec 2011 ·

#880032
It doesn't have AWD. It uses an Aisin 6 speed gearbox to transmit torque to the rear wheels.

AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#880033
Subarugears wrote:It doesn't have AWD. It uses an Aisin 6 speed gearbox to transmit torque to the rear wheels.
Now that would be a nice conversion!
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#880034
d'oh 🤖


😂
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#880057
Joel wrote:
narumi wrote:
donn wrote:^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.
that is why it wasn't coming to Australia as the Management in Australia wanted all subarus to be AWD...

but... now its coming here... as it should sell...


designed by Subaru & Toyota together...

they both wanted a rear wheel drive Not expensive sports car... the BRZ will be more expensive than the Toyota 86 as it will be top of the line only...
from what I've read...

but Subaru RWD running gear...

LEE



- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Subarugears Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Dec 2011 ·

#880065
68AutoBug wrote:
Joel wrote:
narumi wrote:
donn wrote:^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.
that is why it wasn't coming to Australia as the Management in Australia wanted all subarus to be AWD...

but... now its coming here... as it should sell...


designed by Subaru & Toyota together...

they both wanted a rear wheel drive Not expensive sports car... the BRZ will be more expensive than the Toyota 86 as it will be top of the line only...
from what I've read...

but Subaru RWD running gear...

LEE


No. Subaru engine only (with Toyota direct injection).
Aisin 5 speed RWD transmission (same as Honda S2000) and a random rear differential. Probably a Subaru/Nissan R180

narumi I'll do it tomorrow

138 posts · joined Aug 2011 ·

#880083
Subarugears wrote:
68AutoBug wrote:
Joel wrote:
narumi wrote:
donn wrote:^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.
that is why it wasn't coming to Australia as the Management in Australia wanted all subarus to be AWD...


but... now its coming here... as it should sell...


designed by Subaru & Toyota together...

they both wanted a rear wheel drive Not expensive sports car... the BRZ will be more expensive than the Toyota 86 as it will be top of the line only...
from what I've read...

but Subaru RWD running gear...

LEE


No. Subaru engine only (with Toyota direct injection).
Aisin 5 speed RWD transmission (same as Honda S2000) and a random rear differential. Probably a Subaru/Nissan R180
also I read somewhere a while ago that the subaru one MAY have AWD.
I guess that's not happening

Burrelli Officially Full-On Dubber

244 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#880092
I read somewhere the engine has a shorter sump and sits lower in the car than other Subarus.

Could be a good engine for conversion into VWs.

Subarugears Officially Full-On Dubber

236 posts · joined Dec 2011 ·

#880104
Oh yeah, it will be a ripper for putting into VW's. This Subie engine is even more compact than previous ones, has a shorter sump and still retains the same bellhousing pattern so we can fit reversed 5 speed and 6 speed subie transaxles. It's going to get real busy in the conversion market.....