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Pumba Veteran Volks Folk

2,138 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#880067
Has anyone got a picture of the compliance plate from a 61 beetle ???
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#880068
They dont have them
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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2,138 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#880075
Paul is there a plate under the washer bottle,next to the inspection plate.
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#880100
Pumba wrote:Has anyone got a picture of the compliance plate from a 61 beetle ???
Cars didn't need a compliance plate in the 60's - 70s etc..
You had to obtain the chassis number from under the rear seat
and the engine number off the engine....

there was a plate riveted in the front behind the spare wheel
a small alloy plate :

MADE IN
WESTERN GERMANY"

THERE WAS ANOTHER LARGER PLATE WITH THE TYPE NUMBER ETC ON IT... NOT SURE WHEN THEY STARTED.
will have to check. the plate is not used for anything..

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2,138 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#880106
The plate i have here is the larger one and has on it,

Volkswagen
(Australasia) PTY LTD
TYPE 11 CHASSIS No

TOTAL WEIGHT Lbs 2469
MAXFRONT AXLE Lbs 992 REAR Lbs 1477
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9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#880133
68AutoBug wrote:Cars didn't need a compliance plate in the 60's - 70s etc..
Was in early 1970 the ADR style compliance plates started.

My 4/70 1500 had one but haven't seen anything earlier than that with the aussie style ones.

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2,138 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#880139
I just had a look at a 65 and it has the same tag as the one i got ???
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#880144
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4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#880203
Pumba wrote:Paul is there a plate under the washer bottle,next to the inspection plate.
Not that i can remember Shane,cant check as i dont have the beetle anymore...even though i wish i did
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#880222
pod wrote:
Pumba wrote:Paul is there a plate under the washer bottle,next to the inspection plate.
Not that i can remember Shane,cant check as i dont have the beetle anymore...even though i wish i did
Thanks paul but i think i know what the go is,they are only on aussie beetles ??? if you look at the red bug for sale in the UK on here under aussie63,it has the same plate.
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Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds

2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#880419
Haven't we been through this one before?

The Australian Design Rules that manufacturers/importers had to meet came into effect in 1970, so prior to this there was no 'compliance plate'. The little metal plate fitted near the washer bottle behind the spare tyre was called the Manufacturers Plate. The 1960s ones only had rudimentary details on them.

Lee only German-built Beetles had 'Made in Western Germany' on them. Australian-sold cars were almost all made in Melbourne, and had 'Volkswagen Australasia Ltd' on them. Only the very earliest '54 Beetles, and the '68-on semi autos (and the earliest '68 manuals) were fully imported. The rest were made here.

After 1970, when the Design Rules came in, the Manufacturers Plate then had to specify which of the rules the car met, so it became a 'Compliance plate'. The number of rules increased significantly over the years!

This is the Manufacturers Plate from my old Aussie '64 (which I kept as a souvenir after it was written off)

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#880420
Thanks phill,thats what i wanted to know.
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Phil74Camper wrote:Only the very earliest '54 Beetles, and the '68-on semi autos (and the earliest '68 manuals) were fully imported. The rest were made here.
Or were made by Karmann (Ghias & Cabrios)
After 1970, when the Design Rules came in, the Manufacturers Plate then had to specify which of the rules the car met, so it became a 'Compliance plate'.
No it was replaced by the 'Compliance plate' as Australia had option M912. The "Manufacturers Plate" or "Vehicle ID Plate" was not fitted to Australian delivered vehicles until very recently.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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#880440
Apart from a few demonstrators in 1961, the Beetle Cabriolet was never sold in Australia. Less than 400 Karmann Ghias were sold here in 12 years, but yes they were fully imported. As was the 1600TS, a few VW 411 and Type 182 demonstrators and numerous Euro Delivery and private imports over the years. Thanks for the reminder!

Didn't I just say that the old manufacturers plate became a compliance plate when the ADRs came in? Here's an early '70s example - even though the car was CKD assembled in Melbourne, the plate now says 'This vehicle was manufactured by Volkswagenwerk AG to comply with Australian Design Rules Nos: 1,2 3...', etc etc. Yes it's now a 'compliance plate' because that what it is specifying; but you could also still call it a 'manufacturers plate' if you wanted. I'm not talking about the current models - or even the post '77 full imports.

The only reference to the VW M912 code I can find quickly is to do with chromed mudguard beading - please explain?

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#880446
50 Cabros were imported in 1961 to be sold through Melbourne dealers in June. (Winter time) I wonder why they didn't sell?

M912 No Vehicle ID Plate (Part of the specifications for Australian delivered vehicles)
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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