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rossdanialnaumov Officially Full-On Dubber

230 posts · joined Jan 2011 · 26 Jan 2012, 9:13 pm

#883539

Hi guys,

I've just fitted some new adjustable spring plates to the rear of my 70 bus and they came with new rubbers that fit around the axle tubes. My issue is that they're squeaking! and it's annoying the shite out of me! I was supposed to put grease or lube on them before fitting right? Is there a way of fixing the squeak without pulling out the springplates again?

Cheers.
Ross

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6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 26 Jan 2012, 9:17 pm

#883541

Rubber as in rubber, or urethane?

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rossdanialnaumov Officially Full-On Dubber

230 posts · joined Jan 2011 · 26 Jan 2012, 9:29 pm

#883543

Yes rubber. When I jump up and down on the rear bumper I can hear the squeak so I'm sure it's the spring plate rubbers. I could be wrong.

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 27 Jan 2012, 9:54 am

#883619

Pull them out and liberally coat them with graphite powder, or talc powder.

I've always used graphite on mine and have never had any dramas until last weekend. I have a little squeak now, but I did do a lot of mud and water crossing, so I assume I just have some crap in there.

The other thing it can be is the rubber bushes in your shock eyes. Make sure you check these are right too.

Smiley 🙂

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rossdanialnaumov Officially Full-On Dubber

230 posts · joined Jan 2011 · 27 Jan 2012, 8:56 pm

#883721

Great thanks Smiley! I was hoping I wouldn't need to pull out the springplates but it looks that way.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Jan 2012, 11:31 pm

#883748

rossdanialnaumov wrote:Hi guys,

I've just fitted some new adjustable spring plates to the rear of my 70 bus and they came with new rubbers that fit around the axle tubes. My issue is that they're squeaking! and it's annoying the shite out of me! I was supposed to put grease or lube on them before fitting right? Is there a way of fixing the squeak without pulling out the spring plates again?

Cheers.
Ross

Hi Ross.
they are usually made from rubber and the rubber twists not the spring plates tube..

they say to use talcum powder on them, but I think that is to make it easier to install new rubbers..

If You have urethane rubbers then Your problem is the urethane is too stiff..
and the tube inside the bush is moving back and forth.. so rubber grease may help...

spraying with WD40 etc may also help stop the squeak..
and save you a heap of work...
if it will penetrate inside the bushes..

Lee

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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 28 Jan 2012, 8:59 am

#883775

68AutoBug wrote:Hi Ross.
they are usually made from rubber and the rubber twists not the spring plates tube..

they say to use talcum powder on them, but I think that is to make it easier to install new rubbers..

If You have urethane rubbers then Your problem is the urethane is too stiff..
and the tube inside the bush is moving back and forth.. so rubber grease may help...

spraying with WD40 etc may also help stop the squeak..
and save you a heap of work...
if it will penetrate inside the bushes..

Lee

I would try to avoid using oil based products on the rubbers. You don't know how they are going to react and the WD40 could eat the rubber.

Rubber grease is a good option, with one downside. Because it is a wet lubricant it will attract dirt, dust and road grime into the moving parts of the spring plate, wearing your rubbers out more quickly. You be the judge of whether this will be a problem for your car or not. Cause mine is an offroad it frequently sees dirt, sand and heavy dust.

This is why I would recommend a good dry lubricant such as talc powder or graphite powder.
I using graphite cause the colour matched the black rubber of the bushes better 🤪

Smiley 🙂

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 Jan 2012, 9:05 am

#883776

as the bushes are tight on the torsion bar tubes

I don't think anything could get in under the rubber apart from a penetrating fluid like WD40 etc..

You can use a degreaser later to wash off any external wd40

If its driving You crazy... Its worth trying..

LEE

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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 · 28 Jan 2012, 10:27 am

#883792

You can try some silicon lubricant in a pressure pack, you can get a CRC product that puts a coating on and dries, it works very well, the can has a extension tube to spray into tight spots so you should be able to get in there, also there will be no problem with it reacting with the rubber.

Mattriots Seriously Crusin Dubber

131 posts · joined Sep 2011 · 28 Jan 2012, 2:24 pm

#883823

Use a lanolin based lubricant like Lanox or Lanotec
Without a doubt it is the best penetrant/lube for rubber suspension components, I used to coat all my old Mercedes suspension stuff with it, zero squeaks!!
And stay clear of urethane suspension bushes, urethane is not a load bearing product!

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 28 Jan 2012, 2:32 pm

#883824

The factory says talc.

I'd go with talc or graphite.

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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rossdanialnaumov Officially Full-On Dubber

230 posts · joined Jan 2011 · 28 Jan 2012, 4:07 pm

#883839

Thanks guys and yes 68AutoBug it's driving me crazy! It seems to only do it after they warm up say after 10 minutes of driving. The car doesn't see any offroad so I don't think dirt will be a problem Smiley. The amount of times I drive the car and given I'm planning on doing some rear suspension mods in the next 6 months (the spring plates might have to come back out) this is only a short term fix. I will try a spray on lubricant like CRC or WD40 and let you guys know how it goes.

Again, thanks very much for your help!

Cheers,
Ross

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1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 30 Jan 2012, 12:13 am

#884190

Try eucalyptus oil. It'll penetrate very well into the squeeky areas and you may not need to strip it all down.

Maybe check the effect of eucy oil on the rubber first. I don't expect it to be a problem.

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 31 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

#884510

give them a squirt of brake fluid

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Klaus Custom Title Time!

1,439 posts · joined Aug 2004 · 31 Jan 2012, 7:06 pm

#884534

KY just wear protection when applicating

rossdanialnaumov Officially Full-On Dubber

230 posts · joined Jan 2011 · 1 Feb 2012, 6:17 pm

#884711

Ha ha ha ... That's great Klaus. So many remedies! I'm loving them, thank you guys!