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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889002
My old boy has a 71 bug that is need of lowering and a set of mags. I've been more a kombi man mostly so i'm not sure when it comes to bugs. I did a search and found a few things but not to many... from memory this has a 4 x stud pattern and a spring front end... what is the best spring height to buy to lower the front ( legal) and place to buy springs. I was thinking a 15" rim what ET etc do i need to look for, we were hoping to get somthing in black like a BRM or empi???
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62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#889014
If it has springs it is a super.

It will be a 3 bolt front end.
Rather than put shorter springs in you lower the spring cup

Have a look at this thread

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=48798&page=1

As for wheels - that is a different matter

A stock wheel is 4.5" and "should" be 41ET - you need to check
A lot of wheels are more like 5.5" and 20ET
ie - they stick out

Play with this
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

A "good" offset is 6" and 36ET - that is what a Porsche cookie cutter is or a V Force Spider
The cookie is 5 bolt so you would need new drums and rotors

heep of 4 bolt wheels here
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_wheel_types/914_wheel_types.htm


But a 6" wheel needs a thin spring strut or hour glass springs

Also have a look at Topline
http://toplineparts.com/products/Brochure%202008.pdf
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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889021
Cheers Bizarre. Is spring lowering any good? I wouldn't cut them just buy new shorten springs.
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62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#889024
you would still need a shorter insert

I think you would find a modified strut is cheaper than new springs

Main thing is to pick the wheel you want and work around that

The way Helbus did it is your best bang for buck
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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889027
Can you buy modified struts in OZ?
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#889029
sure it depends on what your after. barry and i both have vforce struts. 100% adjustable.
but it all depends on your budget. i had a set that had the cup moved down 30mm worked ok. you dont really want to go more than that without other mods.
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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889037
Sounds like the cup cut is the way to go. Anyone know of anywhwere that does this in the bris to sunnycoast area? then is it just a matter of winding the back to suit if needed?
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65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#889109
Unless you're planning on running big rims or tyres I would honestly just grab a pair of adjustable struts.

The VW online shop has them for $220 and you get new strut inserts with them, just fit your existing springs and upper strut tops.

If you get the cups welded and it's too low, shit happens...
but atleast adjustables you can tweak with the height afterwards.

tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889129
Joel wrote:Unless you're planning on running big rims or tyres I would honestly just grab a pair of adjustable struts.

The VW online shop has them for $220 and you get new strut inserts with them, just fit your existing springs and upper strut tops.

If you get the cups welded and it's too low, shit happens...
but atleast adjustables you can tweak with the height afterwards.
cheers Joel i'll check them out. I only really want to take it down 2" and some nice feet. I found a set of black vforce rims that look good, can you recomend anything else mate??
"Obey your Dreams"!


62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#889135
if the rims look like these you need the thin springs

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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889142
Yeah there the ones. oh well back to the drawing board
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62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#889168
no idea what postage would be but the springs are only $109 US

They are "suppose" to lower your bug between 3/4" - 1 1/2"

get the spiders and the springs and see how it looks
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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889169
checked out vw online and could not find them? Have you got a link Joel
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Sbug 71 Seriously Crusin Dubber

123 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·

#889770
I got a set of those adjustable struts from Classic Veedub. $220. Set them to the just past half way and I'm happy with the way it looks. I'm sure if you wanted to spend more money you would get a much better quality adjustable strut but these give you the look you want. Fitted Empi 8's to it and had to cut the stud off the bottom of the ball joint to stop it scrubbing on the inner rim though.

tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#889788
Cheers Sbug 71, i'm going to go down that track as well. I'm thinking of maybe leaving stocko rims and get them powder coated black. I do like the look of a fat set of rear tyres and was wondering how wide can i go on the back tyre wise. I talked to volks conversion and he said i can get them widened to 6" on the rear rims.
So what do people think is the best/toughest look on 15"stokos widened or not??
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65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
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Sbug 71 Seriously Crusin Dubber

123 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·

#890484
I was going to go down the same track with the stock rims but a wheel widening person down here told me that they would have to be at least 8" wide and cost a bit as well. Don't know if that is true but it was enough to make me buy new rims. I wanted to get 5.5" stockos on the back and leave the standard ones on the front. The problem being that I could only get them in chrome and I didn't really want that. Also with the Empi's I got the rear wheel bolts are too long and need to be cut down about 10-15mm so that they don't foul on the brake shoes.

Hope some of this info helps.

tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#890486
Sbug 71 wrote:I was going to go down the same track with the stock rims but a wheel widening person down here told me that they would have to be at least 8" wide and cost a bit as well. Don't know if that is true but it was enough to make me buy new rims. I wanted to get 5.5" stockos on the back and leave the standard ones on the front. The problem being that I could only get them in chrome and I didn't really want that. Also with the Empi's I got the rear wheel bolts are too long and need to be cut down about 10-15mm so that they don't foul on the brake shoes.

Hope some of this info helps.
Sure does mate thanks for the heads up. I'm looking at some 4 stud BRM's, 4.5 for the front and 5.5 for the back. I'm not sure if anyone here is rolling on these BRM's.
"Obey your Dreams"!


62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!