66deluxe Custom Title Time!
1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·
Thanks for any help. Damo.
61 Karmann Ghia 2110cc type1 w Los Panchito's
66 Deluxe Beetle 2270 type 4
10 Subaru WRX Impreza
66deluxe Custom Title Time!
1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi Steve1303Steve wrote:Hi
A 1500 Beetle one. You can no longer buy a master cylinder to suit late drum brake bug.
So if you have a 1500 Beetle, a 76 Beetle or a 4 wheel drum brake 1300 12 volt Beetle you use the same one on all of those models.
Steve
vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday
16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·
Lee the difference between disc master cylinders and drum masters is residual line pressure valve in the drum brake cylinders,this holds a low pressure in the line,the disc brakes don't use this as it will cause brake drag because there are no springs to retract the shoes (pads) and with a booster this is accentuated to the point where the brakes will lock up.68AutoBug wrote:Hi Steve1303Steve wrote:Hi
A 1500 Beetle one. You can no longer buy a master cylinder to suit late drum brake bug.
So if you have a 1500 Beetle, a 76 Beetle or a 4 wheel drum brake 1300 12 volt Beetle you use the same one on all of those models.
Steve
that is a bit strange when all NORTH AMERICAN Beetles had drum brakes?? including all supers..
what is the difference? between drum & disc brake master cylinders??
Lee
psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
66deluxe Custom Title Time!
1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·
hellbugged 48's and straight cuts
5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·
66deluxe Custom Title Time!
1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·
Not the best?hellbugged wrote:you might be looking for those front discs sooner than later..........had dual circuit master with drums years ago.
matberry Moderator Go hard or go home
8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·
hellbugged 48's and straight cuts
5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·
psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
How do You tell the difference between a Disc or drum front Master cylinder??66deluxe wrote:I purchased a new dual circuit M/C disc front drum rear. So hopefully install that along with type 3 rear brakes also. Then add disc brakes to the front later.
psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
So long as the rears don't lock under everyday braking conditions then I can't see why you fail them?68AutoBug wrote:How do You tell the difference between a Disc or drum front Master cylinder??66deluxe wrote:I purchased a new dual circuit M/C disc front drum rear. So hopefully install that along with type 3 rear brakes also. Then add disc brakes to the front later.
I have one I bought from the USA [for a spare]
maybe its for drum/drum duals??
I was always going to put type 3 rear drums on My beetle
but You don't need any more brake surface on the rear unless You have the rear brakes adjusted right UP..
I failed a brake test last year as My rear brakes worked too well... {I had just adjusted them] lol
LEE
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
1 attachment · Log in to view
psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·
Steve we all know this happens even though the RTa doesn't acknowledge it,my new brake test machine would fail the vehicle unless it was driven over 30kph and as you say the suspension didn't dip enough to give a deceleration which was a bugger in wet weather. Les1303Steve wrote:Hi
Lee the master cylinder you bought will most likely be for LHD.
Most brake test nowadays are conducted in the mechanics office.
My old 1302 with 4 wheel 4 spot brakes kept failing, the tester put it down to my cars heavier suspension not dipping under braking.
Steve
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
66deluxe Custom Title Time!
1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·
Uber Kafer Wolfsburg Wizard
414 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·
psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·
They are half the price of a RHD MC. They are also perfectly usable IF you have access to a proper pipe bender but for servicing purposes they are tricky to access properly. With the tank out its much easier.Uber Kafer wrote:seems to be a lot of left hand drive dual circuit master cylinders being advertised lately ( and not identified as such as well), did someone stuff up an order and bring a whole bunch of LHD units in to the country and is now off loading them everywhere ?
From what I can see they cant be used on right hand drive cars as the pipes will be took close to the tunnel.