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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#895712
Hello all,

I'm currently just asking around on Australian classic car forums as to peoples thoughts on rust proofing products.

This is mainly to do with cavity waxes and cavity rust proofing. From what I've seen Australia does not seem to have much in the way of native products apart from Fish Oil or Lanolyn. Lanolyn is the better of the two but neither have any corosion inhibiting factor. On rust free metal they will work fairly well.

Anyhow, what I'm interested in is whether people would buy a reasonably priced cavity wax that can neutralise rust, protect from moisture, and hence further rust forming, and is a permenantly pliable, self healing waxy barrier on the metal surface?

If I get enough interest from the classic car forums then I have a contact to use to put this product into the Australian market.

There are other importers of such products in Australia but there pricing is ridiculously high to the point where the manufacturer is very unhappy with the importers pricing plus the lack of marketing the company does for this product.

Pricing for a 750ml areosol would be around $35-40 or less as I need the numbers before I bother with the indepth import duty etc expenses. The current pricing of such products is $50 or more.

Hope to hear from as many people as possible on this as you could end up abloe to buy a very good product for a very reasonable price so we both win 😀

Many Thanks
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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#895753
I'll be chasing something like that also. I was planing on ankor waxing my bug down the track so if you can come up with anything better or whatever let me know.
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coletrickle Wolfsburg Wizard

661 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#895762
tar76 wrote:I'll be chasing something like that also. I was planing on ankor waxing my bug down the track so if you can come up with anything better or whatever let me know.
Tarin see matt,he's got the stuff you need!🥷

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#895779
What about some info on what product or even a sample we could buy. I'm always looking for a better rust prevention product/method.
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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#895783
coletrickle wrote:
tar76 wrote:I'll be chasing something like that also. I was planing on ankor waxing my bug down the track so if you can come up with anything better or whatever let me know.
Tarin see matt,he's got the stuff you need!🥷
Yeah plan on hitting with gibbs first and then a month or so later seal it with something like ankor wax?
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62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#895790
When I worked at the Nissan dealership in Tuncurry we used the Valvoline Tectyl as a rust proofing,the door trims and any cover panels were removed and a cavity wand was udes on the inaccessible areas.sometimes we mixed it with deodorised fish oil for the cars and utes that were used by the fishermen. This product skins over but does not set hard,the overspray an be cleaned off with turps/kero. The vehicles that were treated had a good life as against the untreated ones in this extreme environment.Tectyl can be purchased in bulk for brushing or spraying or in spray cans for small areas .

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#895820
It's made by Bilt Hamber and currently imported by Permenant Paint Products over here. But like I said they aren't happy with how shit PPC are in general.

Check out Bilt Hambers website for their product range but the Dynax S50 is a top class cavity wax.

Like I said, if I get enough interest then I will become the Australian stockist 🙂

Time for a none greedy importer 🙂
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#895821
grumble wrote:When I worked at the Nissan dealership in Tuncurry we used the Valvoline Tectyl as a rust proofing,the door trims and any cover panels were removed and a cavity wand was udes on the inaccessible areas.sometimes we mixed it with deodorised fish oil for the cars and utes that were used by the fishermen. This product skins over but does not set hard,the overspray an be cleaned off with turps/kero. The vehicles that were treated had a good life as against the untreated ones in this extreme environment.Tectyl can be purchased in bulk for brushing or spraying or in spray cans for small areas .
Tectyl protects but has no rust converting and inhibiting properties as I looked at this stuff too.
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cam070 Custom Title Time!

1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·

#895826
Will this product be any good for spraying up your tansission tunnel? I am looking for a product to suit that application right know.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#895839
Yes, a 60cm injection lance can be bought and fits on the areosol version. Good for the heater channels too 🙂
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norbert Comedian in training

317 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#896072
I'd be interested. Whats a good external rust protection product.
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#896218
I used KBS. Its the Aussie version of POR15. Works very well and is 1/4 less in price than POR15 🙂

I do need more interest tho in the cavity wax to make it a viable idea!!!
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#896231
I think Terasen Loctite do one that is good also that has a long hose that you can feed down the heater channels.

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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#896322
does it contain rust inhibitors and curing agents?
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#896412
Not Sure, I can find out. Will let you know.
Heath
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GooNoo2180 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

94 posts · joined Sep 2009 ·

#896416
i have been using Tectyl for many years ,my opinion ,the best there is ,there's different types ,tectyl 506 has converting ,inhibiter properties
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#896452
GooNoo2180 wrote:i have been using Tectyl for many years ,my opinion ,the best there is ,there's different types ,tectyl 506 has converting ,inhibiter properties
what sizes does it come in and how much does it cost?
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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#896561
Hmm, I spoke with a guy from PPC the other day and he was very helpful.
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#896571
Newt wrote:Hmm, I spoke with a guy from PPC the other day and he was very helpful.
Yea, may be very helpful but in the UK its 13 pounds for Dynax S50 and here it's $50. Bilt Hamber are rather unhappy with his huge mark up and unless he can show just how much he paid in import duty to justify his pricing then he's fleecing everyone who walks thro his door.

I'm just putting this out there to see if there's enough interest so that you guys get a good deal on a good product. Course if you wanna throw your hard earned away then thats fine by me too 😉
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rowansnow Learner Dubber

14 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#896657
I was refered to a Product called

Xtra-Cote is that any good, has anyone used it?

It's supposed to be better than POR15

Not sure on pricing, I will find out..🤓

I am interested in good rust prevention products

68BUS Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·

#896699
I use Rust Bullet everywhere you cannot see. It is $100/ltr but gets good covereage. I also have a test piece that painted about 2 years ago (1mm mild steel raw) and left outside. You are supposed to put two coats on but I only did one.


It sets hard though.

I would be interested in a product that flows well also for doing in the pillars and seams on a yearly basis. So count me in as an interested party if the product is good and will save me money.

Do you have a shop of the northside of brisbane do you?
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gerggl Wolfsburg Wizard

447 posts · joined Sep 2010 ·

#896757
I am using Rust Bullit ...check out the product on the net .... I have glossy black and the grey ... and you can buy it in Brisbane!

If you want any help email me ... more than happy to help!
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Brisbane


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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#896805
68BUS wrote:I use Rust Bullet everywhere you cannot see. It is $100/ltr but gets good covereage. I also have a test piece that painted about 2 years ago (1mm mild steel raw) and left outside. You are supposed to put two coats on but I only did one.


It sets hard though.

I would be interested in a product that flows well also for doing in the pillars and seams on a yearly basis. So count me in as an interested party if the product is good and will save me money.

Do you have a shop of the northside of brisbane do you?
Don't have a shop but after finding things far too expensive to what they maybe should be I contacted the overseas manufacturer about the pricing. This is when they said they weren't happy.

Like I said if I get enough interest I can just keep the stuff in the garage at home and sell thro internet and phone sales. Anyone on Northside could easily arrange to come to me garage.
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68BUS Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·

#896868
No worries mate. Like I said, I am an interested party for the hard to get to places. My personal preference would be a screw top that can take on of the body deadener spray heads to air blow the stuff into seams etc. over an aerosol that I find don;t last long enough.
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#896968
68BUS wrote:No worries mate. Like I said, I am an interested party for the hard to get to places. My personal preference would be a screw top that can take on of the body deadener spray heads to air blow the stuff into seams etc. over an aerosol that I find don;t last long enough.
Yea thats always a bit of an unknown quantity when it comes to aerosols.
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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#897119
68 Bus,

Is that a photo of what it looks like now, or what it was like when you painted over it?

Cheers

Newt
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68BUS Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·

#897132
Thats 2 years on. When I painted it it was bare clean steel. Cant remenber if I rubs the oil film off that it comes with or not though.
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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#897238
Cheers

Just wanted to know if you painted over good steel or not.

Newt
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#897281
The terrasan loctite cavity wax has rust preventative agents in it. My best mate is the rep for loctite here in SA and can get it and you should be able to get it anywhere that sells loctite or car paint supplies. They use it in all new cars that come out or germany.
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
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68BUS Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·

#897336
I wish they used it in all old cars that came out of Germany. That would make my resto a lot cheaper.
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