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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#902072
Most of the aussie suppliers would have kits like that in stock, and you would pay a heap less in freight.

Accu-spark is scraping the bottom of the barrel abit when it comes to electronic ignition, if you do a search around the various forums alot of people bitching about being stranded by the cheap kits like accu-fire, empi, hot spark etc failing.

The better known brands like Pertronix, compu-fire etc aren't much more and have a much better reputation.

I've used a Pertronix ignitor II for years and been happy with it.

itsfo Casual Dubber

28 posts · joined Feb 2012 ·

#902157
Cool cool, thanks for the advice, the general rule of "too good to be true" lives on!

Cheers.

SebastienPeek Custom Title Time!

1,657 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#902185
Sorry to hijack, but this sounds like a good place to bring up this sort of discussion.

What are the major differences between kits such as Compu-Fire and MSD Ignition?
What is needed specifically, for a MSD Ignition setup in a Beetle, what about a Compu-Fire ignition setup?

Thanks!
The sold one, '73 VW 1303 - Zelda
The project, '74 VW 1303 - Gretl

itsfo Casual Dubber

28 posts · joined Feb 2012 ·

#902194
Compu-fire make the distributorless ignition system (compu-tronix do as well) I think. Like most modern EFI setups.

Basically turns the moving parts of your dizzy into a crank angle sensor, which tells the coil pack when to fire.

The kits seem to come with everything you need. The new dizzy cap (+internals), wiring, coil pack, leads.

Not sure about MSD, but I imagine it as a similar set up.

This is just my understanding though!

As far as I know, they all do the same thing! Make stuff go bang!

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#902199
Im sure the MSD setup is just an electronic dizzy using a cap and leads..Where as the Compufire set up like on my wifes car uses a gutted Empi 004 mechanical advance dizzy with a magnetic pickup and rotor disk inside.This tells the coilpacks when to fire.There are no wearing parts..well besides the dizzy bearings. The whole kit is good quality besides the leads which are more or less generic leads like sold on CIP1 so I made custom MSD leads to suit the coilpack placement..

SebastienPeek Custom Title Time!

1,657 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#902208
A, okay, that makes sense!

Jason, does the CompuFire system have a tachometer wire?
I know that MSD setups such as the 6AL do, and I am needing one for the new setup I'll be running, but if the CompuFire does then I'll easily purchase a kit.

It's all about the best bang for my buck that ticks all the boxes really. And before you say just run the tachometer from the coil, with the setup I'm going I can't.

🙂
The sold one, '73 VW 1303 - Zelda
The project, '74 VW 1303 - Gretl

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#902211
Yes the Compufire Setup has a plug thats bare for the tacho adaptor.Which is called a Tacho Adaptor for D.I.S Ignition Systems.Their available from Wassim at Vollks.
He's sold out of Compufire setups but if the dollars good jsut buy the mechanical advance 009,Compufire setup and tacho adaptor all from CIP1 while the dollars still good.

SebastienPeek Custom Title Time!

1,657 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#902212
Awesome, the CompuFire sounds a lot easier to install then the MSD ignition kits, will add it to my CIP1 order now.

Thanks Jason, appreciate the help!
The sold one, '73 VW 1303 - Zelda
The project, '74 VW 1303 - Gretl

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#902214
Just make sure you buy a mechanical advance 009 style dizzy thats suits the Compufire system if you dont have one now that is..

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#902230
Seb, Have you bought anything just yet?

The Dis-x coil pack systems like snitz has is the way to go, modern cars have been using coil pack ignitions for over 20 years now, distributors went out with the arc.

THey have come down in price alot, they aren't much over the $300 last time I checked.

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#902275
Cool Seb..The leads that come with the Compufire setup are usually too long. I have an MSD crimping tool so if you ever want me to make a custom set of leads just let me know.
Just buy the bits from outlaw speed shop and I can make them up free of charge you just supply the bits..cheer Jason.

DakDak67 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#903023
Be sure to have your 009 recurved ..

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#903033
My Empi Competition dissy is a 40 degree Mechanical Advanced Dizzy.To suit the Compufire and Twin HPMX carbies.

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#903044
With the way the rear seat sits on the body there is no room to run your ignition leads from under the seat. Plus the longer the lead the higher the resistance of the lead which defeats the purpose of running a high output ignition.Somewhere behind the rear seat or on the firewall in the cabin is an option..but running leads through the firewall can be an issue too.

DakDak67 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#903055
snitz wrote:My Empi Competition dissy is a 40 degree Mechanical Advanced Dizzy.To suit the Compufire and Twin HPMX carbies.
Yeh, 40 is very high.. i'm talking about the advance curve-not total advance, a stock 009 curve only suits an industrial engine.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#903072
If you need to mount the modules inside the car, most people normally put them on the inside of the firewall/parcel tray.