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baja_01 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

84 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·

#909085
Hi All
Just pulled the motor out to do some mods and found little strips of red seal material in bellhousing with a small amount of oil. Before the motor was put back in the main seal was replaced and a new cromo flywheel fitted. Any hints at what could cause this?
Also end play set at 0.003"
BTW Elring seal used

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#909148
Hi
I have read in manuals where the seal is pushed in flush BUT
I have a copy of the special tool to knock the seal in and it is stepped...
so the seal should be knocked in further..

Maybe the flywheel was up against it??

LEE

PS: I'm no mechanic..
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#909536
Also, those red seals are pretty crap and I dunno anyone in Oz who stock VW Germany seals as the VW Brasil ones are of pretty poor quality.

The 'genuine' VW German seals are available at a cost but will give troublefree motoring. Go to VW Heritage in the UK for cheapest shipping price 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#909560
I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#909592
matberry wrote:I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL
Cheaper than a genuine VW Germany seal at $30. Only time would tell which is better 😉
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#909669
psimitar wrote:Also, those red seals are pretty crap and I dunno anyone in Oz who stock VW Germany seals as the VW Brasil ones are of pretty poor quality.

The 'genuine' VW German seals are available at a cost but will give troublefree motoring. Go to VW Heritage in the UK for cheapest shipping price 🙂
Mat Berry stocks the ELRING seals so does Vintage Vee Dub and anyone who knows what a good main seal is..

Not worth the trouble to fit anything else...

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#909672
68AutoBug wrote:
psimitar wrote:Also, those red seals are pretty crap and I dunno anyone in Oz who stock VW Germany seals as the VW Brasil ones are of pretty poor quality.

The 'genuine' VW German seals are available at a cost but will give troublefree motoring. Go to VW Heritage in the UK for cheapest shipping price 🙂
Mat Berry stocks the ELRING seals so does Vintage Vee Dub and anyone who knows what a good main seal is..

Not worth the trouble to fit anything else...

LEE
Never heard of the Elrings before so went with what I know and trust. Quality of the genuine VW German seal is very good tho 😉
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#909692
psimitar wrote:Quality of the genuine VW German seal is very good tho 😉
That would be certain, mind you, they are probably from the same factory.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#909698
matberry wrote:
psimitar wrote:Quality of the genuine VW German seal is very good tho 😉
That would be certain, mind you, they are probably from the same factory.
Do you mean the Elring and VW seal are probably from the same factory?
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#909708
psimitar wrote:Do you mean the Elring and VW seal are probably from the same factory?
Yes
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HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#909712
psimitar wrote:
matberry wrote:I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL
Cheaper than a genuine VW Germany seal at $30. Only time would tell which is better 😉
I'm sure the likes of Matt Berry would not risk a hard-earned reputation by using inferior parts.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#909713
Elring and victor reinz are great quality seals. But i would choose elring first.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#909714
Ta Greg.

I have seen Victor Reinz go way downhill in recent years. Thier early Porshe seals leave a bit to be desired.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#909747
HappyDaze wrote:
psimitar wrote:
matberry wrote:I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL
Cheaper than a genuine VW Germany seal at $30. Only time would tell which is better 😉
I'm sure the likes of Matt Berry would not risk a hard-earned reputation by using inferior parts.
Matt's a dying breed then mate. I've seen so many companies worldwide just sit on their laurels and sell off their reputation as quality goes downhill yet prices go up 🙁

Also, interesting that if the VW and Elring are made by the same company that the Elring is way cheaper than the VW part. Least I know for next time where to get one from 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍