country buggy spindles vs barndoor

bevelhead Seriously Crusin Dubber

161 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 14 Jul 2012, 1:23 am

#912551

Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the country buggy spindles and the barn door spindles, i know you can fit the cb ones to beetles for height but what about the barn door ones.

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 14 Jul 2012, 6:21 am

#912557

Unfortunately no. The steering arm on a Split Kombi is forged differently. aside from that the spindles are indeticle to late model Split Kombis.

I have just fitted a set of CB spindles to mine so you can see pictures of them in my build thread on the last page or so.

Here is a picture of one of my CB spindles.

And here is a picture of a Kombi spindle I just found on the net.

You can see the difference in steering arm there.

Hope this has helped you.

Smiley 🙂

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 14 Jul 2012, 8:47 am

#912559

Smiley, he said Barndoor, not split. Barney's have a similar but different stub assy. They are much easier to fit to a beetle front end and I believe the same as CB with a difference in link-pin diameter.

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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 14 Jul 2012, 10:33 am

#912567

Barndoor spindles.

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bevelhead Seriously Crusin Dubber

161 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 14 Jul 2012, 7:58 pm

#912643

Thanks smiley (beasty baja by the way🙂) your thread was what got me curious as the barnys have the steer arm up top like country buggy, but both are getting hard to find even though there was a set of cb spindles on evilbay a couple of days ago.

So sounds like the barn ones can be fitted according to Matt

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 15 Jul 2012, 2:58 pm

#912737

This is really cool!!

I had no idea that the barndoor spindles were the same!

Looks like a pretty good option if you are able to get hold of a pair.

When I had mine rebuilt the bloke that did them made all of the link pin bushes from scratch out of bronze. So if the link pin diameter is different in the barndoor stubs just have a set of bushes made that fit the stock internal diameter of the spindles, with the hole machined for the correct internal diameter to suit the stock Beetle link pins.

Smiley 🙂

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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 15 Jul 2012, 3:00 pm

#912739

I just had a quick look on the Samba.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1292674

Freight would be a killer though, even if you only got just the spindles!!

Smiley 🙂

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MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 15 Jul 2012, 4:23 pm

#912756

Smiley wrote:This is really cool!!

I had no idea that the barndoor spindles were the same!

Looks like a pretty good option if you are able to get hold of a pair.

When I had mine rebuilt the bloke that did them made all of the link pin bushes from scratch out of bronze. So if the link pin diameter is different in the barndoor stubs just have a set of bushes made that fit the stock internal diameter of the spindles, with the hole machined for the correct internal diameter to suit the stock Beetle link pins.

Smiley 🙂

WHY did he make everything from scratch and not just buy a kit?????? Was it cheaper????

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11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Jul 2012, 5:28 pm

#912766

Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?

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bevelhead Seriously Crusin Dubber

161 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 15 Jul 2012, 5:39 pm

#912769

11CAB wrote:Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?

In isle 6 next to the rocking horse shit😂

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 15 Jul 2012, 5:41 pm

#912771

NO idea...perhaps thats why he made them??? Ive got a couple of sets of CB spindles here so am curious.

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nils Fahrvergnugen

971 posts · joined Jan 2008 · 15 Jul 2012, 6:17 pm

#912780

MickH wrote:
Smiley wrote:This is really cool!!

I had no idea that the barndoor spindles were the same!

Looks like a pretty good option if you are able to get hold of a pair.

When I had mine rebuilt the bloke that did them made all of the link pin bushes from scratch out of bronze. So if the link pin diameter is different in the barndoor stubs just have a set of bushes made that fit the stock internal diameter of the spindles, with the hole machined for the correct internal diameter to suit the stock Beetle link pins.

Smiley 🙂
WHY did he make everything from scratch and not just buy a kit?????? Was it cheaper????

probably the same reason i had mine made? You're sure of a better quality product.
choice of know materials, instead of china something.
as well as know clearances to suit your spindles instead of a nominal size.

Quit calling rust patina

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 15 Jul 2012, 6:50 pm

#912781

Yes. For a number of the above listed reasons.

But mostly because he makes all of the bushes to suit the spindles.
And bronze is better than brass which is what comes in most kits.

Smiley 🙂

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11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Jul 2012, 6:51 pm

#912783

bevelhead wrote:
11CAB wrote:Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?
In isle 6 next to the rocking horse shit😂

That's what I thought. When I find them I might look at getting my CB Spindles reco'd

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bevelhead Seriously Crusin Dubber

161 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 16 Jul 2012, 12:23 am

#912844

11CAB wrote:
bevelhead wrote:
11CAB wrote:Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?
In isle 6 next to the rocking horse shit😂
That's what I thought. When I find them I might look at getting my CB Spindles reco'd

well there you go, thats awesome, i thought they would next to non existant, i wonder if its the same kit for cb and barn ones with everything there or different kits?

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 16 Jul 2012, 2:56 pm

#912899

Well the Link pin bushes would at least be different from Barndoor to CB cause of the different diameter link pins.

We used Split Kombi seals for mine when they were being rebuilt. And I also used balljoint Kombi locking nuts to hold the bearings on the stub axles cause they are the same thread.

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MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 16 Jul 2012, 3:17 pm

#912900

With the amount you cut off the mounting nuts you wanna hope they are holding onto enough.....🙅

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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 16 Jul 2012, 3:50 pm

#912906

You could try the T3 stake nuts on the spindles as they are the same thread as the bay window spindles.

RH thread only though.

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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 16 Jul 2012, 4:24 pm

#912910

MickH wrote:With the amount you cut off the mounting nuts you wanna hope they are holding onto enough.....🙅

I agree completely with you. Which is why I got another pair of nuts and only ground them down the bare minimum required. The first pair one I did I went a little overboard 🤪

If you didn't think I did the job properly or safely why didn't you just post in my build thread? I'm happy to except advice, especially if it is a safety concern.

mackaymanx wrote:You could try the T3 stake nuts on the spindles as they are the same thread as the bay window spindles.

RH thread only though.

Thanks man. Only problem is that the CB are left and right threaded.

Smiley 🙂

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MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 16 Jul 2012, 7:22 pm

#912933

Smiley,
I haven't looked at your build thread. I was emailed a picture of the mod you made and asked if it was safe to do,to which i replied no.

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bevelhead Seriously Crusin Dubber

161 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 22 Jul 2012, 5:54 pm

#913923

Just read an old knowing australias volkswagens book and it states that the cb used kombi trailing arms, which raises another question whether they fit the beetle tubes or they used different bearings in the tube

Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 · 22 Jul 2012, 10:50 pm

#914027

They don't.

Country Buggies used a stock Beetle front end aside from the spindles. And they ran a steering box from the Type 3.

Have read of this site about halfway down the page under the heading 'Component Sharing'.

http://members.netro.com.au/~vwcc/cb.htm

Smiley 🙂

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bevelhead Seriously Crusin Dubber

161 posts · joined Aug 2008 · 26 Jul 2012, 5:03 pm

#914589

great little write up there, where they mention cb components it says transporter trailing arms... so they must fit the beetle front tubes