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Mr Muppet Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Nov 2010 ·

#912932
Hi all, as the titles states there is a chirping noise coming frome around my rocker cover or side of the engine. It sounds like it squeaks on each turn (stroke) of the engine and it only comes from one side. Wound anyone have any ideas? Oh yeah, it's a type1 1915 .

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#912938
Hmm... louder above or below the engine ???

If louder from above then I'd say intake manifold leak (check they're tight, boots are good etc.). If you've got twins check that the carb on that side doesn't wobble at all - sign of a loose or possibly even cracked manifold.

If louder from below it's something a bit more serious... like possibly a rocker issue.
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Mr Muppet Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Nov 2010 ·

#912943
Thanks Sides, it's really hard to pinpoint the area it's coming from. Say it was the rockers, what could it be?

shokwave2 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Mar 2010 ·

#912948
Pushrod scraping the inside of the Pushrod tube? Also check the pulley tin, that makes a chirping sound if it's bent and touching the pulley.

Mr Muppet Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Nov 2010 ·

#912954
Pushrod tube is something that was thrown around, it's interesting you said that. Cheers for your input.

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#912955
haha, positive it isn't a little bird stuck down there? 😂
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Mr Muppet Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Nov 2010 ·

#912958
Haha, I heard somewhere that a finch will give you an extra 5hp at the wheels.

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#912980
Mr Muppet wrote:Hi all, as the titles states there is a chirping noise coming frome around my rocker cover or side of the engine. It sounds like it squeaks on each turn (stroke) of the engine and it only comes from one side. Wound anyone have any ideas? Oh yeah, it's a type1 1915 .

Yes, My first thoughts are tinware around the crankshaft pulley
it is very close to the pulley, and if You have an aftermarket degree'd pulley You normally have to grind a bit of the tinware behind the pulley away...
for clearance..

also the fan can rub on the fan housing too...

of course these are a long way from the tappet cover...
maybe the pushrod tube ??
although they shouldn't be bent and should have lots of oil flowing thru them...

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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#913018
Could be a loose head, turn the engine over without the ignition connected and have some one listen to that side of the engine. the noise is comming from that area.

BRUTUS Officially Full-On Dubber

255 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#913073
We had a funny higher-pitched chirp from one side of a standard 1600 type 1 engine once. It turned out to be one of the WAVEY washers being broken across in the middle. This was impossible to find just by looking, as it all stays in place. There is a standard washer, then the wavey one, then a standard one (between the rocker arm and the spacer or block-thingy). If you grab each rocker arm and wobble it sideways, Left to right... if one moves, the wavey washer next to it may be broken. You may need the rocker arm to be loose to check this, ie. not pushing the valve down (just turn the engine over a bit). This assumes you have the standard-type rocker setup.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#913075
If the noise is louder at idle or engine over-run, it'll be an inlet manifold leak or loose head, most likely manifold unless it has an unusually fitted head gasket.
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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#913092
Yeah, rocker wise I was thinking around issues with the washers... too much side play is a clack, and I've heard too little give a squeak/squeal.

My money is on it being a manifold leak tho...

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Mr Muppet Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Nov 2010 ·

#913122
Thanks guys for the useful info, its now a process of elimination. It seems to be most prominent at idle, not so much above 2.5 grand.

The biggest question though, is would I get down to Valla and back?

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#913126
If it's an inlet manifold leak, you must fix it before driving ANY distance. Running lean will cause engine damage.
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Smiley Veteran Volks Folk

2,125 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#913127
Mr Muppet wrote:The biggest question though, is would I get down to Valla and back?
That's over 2 weeks away!! You have plenty of time to get it fixed well before then.



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Mr Muppet Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Nov 2010 ·

#913132
Thats all I need to know, Im working the next two Saturday and Sunday's which means no days off till Valla .
Im going into the shed right now.

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#913136
Mr Muppet wrote:Thats all I need to know, Im working the next two Saturday and Sunday's which means no days off till Valla .
Im going into the shed right now.
go hard mate get that bad boy ready for Valla.
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Mr Muppet Commited Dubber

74 posts · joined Nov 2010 ·

#913196
SUCCESS.
It was the intake manifold(Weber IDF) . It seemed quite ridged to the touch, but it was the rear nut that was
one turn off being tight.
Thanks for the advice, good peoples.

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#913197
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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#913308
Nice work - good you got it sorted.

Do Matt and I score a prize for picking it ???

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