cam070 Custom Title Time!
1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
A while back I had my car soda blasted and had them do some rust repairs at the same time. Would you be happy if you paid for these repairs?
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Would you be happy if you paid for these rust repairs? - Even bodgier than I thought
cesiumfrog Seriously Crusin Dubber
161 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
uh...no
vwjon Fahrvergnugen
914 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·
would you be happy with shit on your car? that would be a better question. those welds are shocking,
what did you pay him a couple of bananas? after he peeled one with his foot, you thought "not bad considering he singed his fur!"
but you daren't complain incase he shits in his hand and throws it at you!!
what did you pay him a couple of bananas? after he peeled one with his foot, you thought "not bad considering he singed his fur!"
but you daren't complain incase he shits in his hand and throws it at you!!
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5PL1TDCS10N Insano Dub Head
845 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
It's all relative to what you paid for the repair and until that is transparent you cannot cast an informed opinion. So what was the quote?
On average its $80-$120p/hr excluding materials...
On average its $80-$120p/hr excluding materials...
helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body
7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
The cost should be relative to the finished product.
In the real world, at least $80p/h and upwards. So if only a couple hours of labour was paid for, then that would be the result.
I know I could fabricate, weld, metal finish, lead wipe a repair in that area of that size, and it can be done so the repair is almost undetectable in bare metal.
However it does take time, and I may need 10-12 hours to do a repair of top quality.
So when rust repairs are quoted at $1000 to fix an area that size properly, it is not uncommon for a vehicle owner to pay say $200 and get a result similar to what is pictured.
So if $1000 was paid for the repair, and the result was as pictured, then that would be inconsistent.
In the real world, at least $80p/h and upwards. So if only a couple hours of labour was paid for, then that would be the result.
I know I could fabricate, weld, metal finish, lead wipe a repair in that area of that size, and it can be done so the repair is almost undetectable in bare metal.
However it does take time, and I may need 10-12 hours to do a repair of top quality.
So when rust repairs are quoted at $1000 to fix an area that size properly, it is not uncommon for a vehicle owner to pay say $200 and get a result similar to what is pictured.
So if $1000 was paid for the repair, and the result was as pictured, then that would be inconsistent.
tar76 Custom Title Time!
1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
Not at all!
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cam070 Custom Title Time!
1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
Thanks for the replies guys. I deliberately left the price off so as not to influence anyone's comments.
I paid $600 to repair these sections and a section on the other side, as well as weld up the trim holes and the aerial hole.
Needless to say I wasn't hapy with the result, and the job wasn't even complete when it I picked it up. As has been mentioned, the quality of the welds is rubbish and you can even see where rust converter has seeped through when I treated the inner surfaces.
I have spoken to the business who did the repairs and they are not prepared to do anything to fix their workmanship, let alone complete the work they were supposed to do. Obviously I am not pleased, but woudl I trust them to try and fix their work.....I don't think so.
If anyone wants to know who not to get to to do rust repairs, or soda blasting for that matter, drop me a PM!
In the mean time, if anyone can help me out with completing these rust repairs, I'd be happy to speak to you.
Cheers
Cam
I paid $600 to repair these sections and a section on the other side, as well as weld up the trim holes and the aerial hole.
Needless to say I wasn't hapy with the result, and the job wasn't even complete when it I picked it up. As has been mentioned, the quality of the welds is rubbish and you can even see where rust converter has seeped through when I treated the inner surfaces.
I have spoken to the business who did the repairs and they are not prepared to do anything to fix their workmanship, let alone complete the work they were supposed to do. Obviously I am not pleased, but woudl I trust them to try and fix their work.....I don't think so.
If anyone wants to know who not to get to to do rust repairs, or soda blasting for that matter, drop me a PM!
In the mean time, if anyone can help me out with completing these rust repairs, I'd be happy to speak to you.
Cheers
Cam
DakDak67 Officially Full-On Dubber
208 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·
Go and buy a 2nd hand welder and learn yourself, that is a shit job , you will do a better one on your first try. Seriously have a go, it's not that hard 🙂
cam070 Custom Title Time!
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You have no idea how much I'd love to learn, but I now have a deadline to get the bodywork done and shell mated to the pan.DakDak67 wrote:Go and buy a 2nd hand welder and learn yourself, that is a shit job , you will do a better one on your first try. Seriously have a go, it's not that hard 🙂
Twins on the way and prep needs to be done for that as well, so time is running short!
toey1984 Commited Dubber
73 posts · joined Feb 2012 ·
thats one shit job!, ( they didnt even put the bolt hole back in the mud guard area after the paper mash'a )
least the soda blasting looks ok from here as a heads up i guess.
hope you can get it sorted soon mate all the best.
least the soda blasting looks ok from here as a heads up i guess.
hope you can get it sorted soon mate all the best.
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Name and shame, or would that be against the forum rules?
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Since there are 2 sides to every story there is to be no naming and shaming on forums (as much as i agree sometimes its personally justified). As mentioned, feel free to Private Messsage for more details.
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bugzla Custom Title Time!
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in my younger days i to had work done by a so called pro hes excuse was " hey it just a vw "
cam070 Custom Title Time!
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The guy who did these repairs was in a hurry to get them done before he left for christmas holidays but I still don't thinks that's any excuse for such poor workmanship. Let alone the the soda blaster who he works for was completely unwilling to correct the shoddy work. In fact he tried to tell me that he thought the work was good quality, can you believe that?
Aussie Dubbin Fahrvergnugen
895 posts · joined Jul 2008 ·
I take it the work has BEEN paid for. Crappy that you have to put up with such shit, why doesn't the guy just say, I don't give a shit, and it will look like crap! Now you've got more work in front of you. Hopefully you end up in a better place
cam070 Custom Title Time!
1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
Certainly a case of no pride in workmanship and definitely not willing to stand behind the quality of their work.Aussie Dubbin wrote:I take it the work has BEEN paid for. Crappy that you have to put up with such shit, why doesn't the guy just say, I don't give a shit, and it will look like crap! Now you've got more work in front of you. Hopefully you end up in a better place
Plenty of work ahead, but we are getting into it now.
I'll be happy to recommend a BUSINESS NOT TO USE if anyone needs their car blasted
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141 posts · joined Jun 2011 ·
Wow! 👎 👎 👎 👎
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Cam - you have a PM
cam070 Custom Title Time!
1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
Replied. Now you know who not to do business with!WAFU Man wrote:Cam - you have a PM
cam070 Custom Title Time!
1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
While I agree that there are 2 sides to every story, I ask you two questions (not you MUSS VDUB personally):MISS VDUB wrote:Since there are 2 sides to every story there is to be no naming and shaming on forums (as much as i agree sometimes its personally justified). As mentioned, feel free to Private Messsage for more details.
1. Would you be proud to say this was your workmanship was yours?
2. If you paid any amount of money for these repairs (let alone hundreds of dollars) would you be happy?
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8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·
1. Nocam070 wrote:1. Would you be proud to say this was your workmanship was yours?
2. If you paid any amount of money for these repairs (let alone hundreds of dollars) would you be happy?
2. No
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2,169 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
Is he a licensed MTA repairer?
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Cam - PM not received
cam070 Custom Title Time!
1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
Not a question I asked at the time, but one would have to say, I doubt it!silver wrote:Is he a licensed MTA repairer?
cam070 Custom Title Time!
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re-PM'edWAFU Man wrote:Cam - PM not received
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Got it - Thanks!
ClockworkMonkey Seriously Crusin Dubber
199 posts · joined Oct 2009 ·
:/ i'm no expert but that looks a little dodgy... I'm sure you have rights when it comes to something like this don't you? obviously you didn't get what you paid for (or even close to it)... i'm sure there are some laws that protect you as the purchaser of that service?
cam070 Custom Title Time!
1,332 posts · joined Jul 2009 ·
I found out why the rust repair section sat up higher then the panel. It was because the dodgy bastard never cut out the rusted sections. He simply cut them and more or less left them in place and riveted patched over the top and welded them in place.
Here are the original bits of German metal that I pulled from under the patches (1 from either side C-pillar). I've circled the holes he drilled to rivet the patches in place.
I would liken this repair to a surgeon cutting out a section of your liver with cancer, but leaving it on your body and sewing you back up.
To be this dodgy the guys must be a rank amateur. Has he not heard of magnets?
Here are the original bits of German metal that I pulled from under the patches (1 from either side C-pillar). I've circled the holes he drilled to rivet the patches in place.
I would liken this repair to a surgeon cutting out a section of your liver with cancer, but leaving it on your body and sewing you back up.
To be this dodgy the guys must be a rank amateur. Has he not heard of magnets?
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68BUS Wolfsburg Wizard
485 posts · joined Jul 2011 ·
Thats shit mate. What a wanker, if he cannot do it properly then don't bloody do it.
I can even do better than that and I am a rank ametuer!
I can even do better than that and I am a rank ametuer!
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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body
7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
That is not a repair at all. It would have been better if he had not touched it. I agree that you should get your money back for that kind of rubbish attempt (or lack of).