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Jenbob Casual Dubber

42 posts · joined Mar 2012 ·

#917683
Hay guys found similar post but nothing exact that helps, I'm new to oz and just got a beetle here, but it looks like a monster truck, back in the uk we ran 145/65/15 or 165/45/15 tyres, just wondering what the smallest tyres you have out here and where can I get them? Thanks rob

tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#917687
where bouts are you located? I'm running 165/50/15 on the front my bug. Thinking of changing them to 145/65's probably try my local tyre company?
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whathaveidone Custom Title Time!

1,559 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#917690
A friend used to run 135's not sure were he got them but

FROSTY Insano Dub Head

744 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#917711
Hey jenbob, I bought 135 Nankangs from the local Bridgestone dealer only a couple of weeks ago, they had to get them in and it only took one day. They cost $115 fitted and balanced (including a tube too).
Thanks
Jason

FROSTY Insano Dub Head

744 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#917712
sorry forgot to mention Nankang also do 145 and 165 too. (same price)

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#917720
Just remember that 70%+ of Your braking is done with the front tyres

and the reason for tubes??

incorrect rim size for Your tyres...

also remember that with a pucture with a tube they go down FAST... really flat...

also Your speedo will be incorrect

LEE
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whathaveidone Custom Title Time!

1,559 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#917724
You sound like the fun police Lee

would like to know how a tubless tyre goes down slower than one with tube????? Puncture is a puncture right

Jenbob Casual Dubber

42 posts · joined Mar 2012 ·

#917730
How tall are the 135? That's pretty narrow are they the space saver spare wheel tyre? Thanks lee il bear that in mind!

coletrickle Wolfsburg Wizard

661 posts · joined Apr 2009 ·

#917753
68AutoBug wrote:Just remember that 70%+ of Your braking is done with the front tyres

and the reason for tubes??

incorrect rim size for Your tyres...

also remember that with a pucture with a tube they go down FAST... really flat...

also Your speedo will be incorrect

LEE
70% of your braking maybe done on your front tyres if you are driving a commodore Lee.jenn bob give Big Tread tyres at capalaba a call brook the owners a mate and a Vw pervert among other things he's my tyre guy.how'd you go at greeze fest?got the visor on?

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#917757
Yep, got my 135's from Brook at Capalaba

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Jenbob Casual Dubber

42 posts · joined Mar 2012 ·

#917773
Thanks for the help guys nice one, yeah grease fest was good some nice cars, sunvisors on, Pete at custom Veedub said he has never seen one put on like mine, it's a bit crudely done, thank for that tho look well good on

MISS VDUB Administrator Mrs KOMBIBOB

2,565 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#917775
Yeah we had skinny space saver type tyres on the front of our beetle and took them off, looked cool but were very dangerous in the wet.
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tar76 Custom Title Time!

1,622 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#917780
matberry wrote:Yep, got my 135's from Brook at Capalaba
Hey Matt i bet the speed camera ahead took a nice shot of the front!! 😂
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62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!

MISS VDUB Administrator Mrs KOMBIBOB

2,565 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#917781
Top photo hey? 😁
1963 Single Cab Ute: "El Concreto"
1962 Baja Beetle: "Peanut"
1968 Porsche 912 SWB: "Pip"
1972 Kombi Snail: "The Snail"
2012 Skoda Octavia Scout: "Scout"
2016 Scirocco R: "Rocco"

FROSTY Insano Dub Head

744 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#917786
Nankang 135's are not space saver tyres ( sure they are small) they have a normal speed rating. I have had them on an early stock rims and also 5.5inch rims ( with a tube) .
Matt your 356eater is one nice machine!!!!

dragsters for life Fahrvergnugen

953 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#917787
i run 135 nankangs on front of my notch and have done for 2 years with no problems, i got mine at my local tyre place 100 each fitted and balanced
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#917796
tar76 wrote:
matberry wrote:Yep, got my 135's from Brook at Capalaba

Hey Matt i bet the speed camera ahead took a nice shot of the front!! 😂
ha ha ...no pic in the mail yet Tarin.....thanks for the vote of confidence 🙂

Good shot eh? you bet. Cheers Ash 🙂

Definately no braking issues, correct tyre pressures is MAJOR important. 👍👍
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#917804
Hi

Not wanting to sound like a nark but you can raise or lower your tyres rolling diameter by only 15 mm from stock in NSW, I don't know where you are but I think this is the case in all states.

Most people get away with it but if the shit hits the fan and an insurance company gets involved they will be looking for an out, incorrect tyres would be an easy one to prove.

Steve

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#917807
1303Steve wrote:but you can raise or lower your tyres rolling diameter by only 15 mm from stock
So I bet most of us are breaking the law then. The stock crossply's were 15mm+ over even a 165/75 IIRC.
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donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#917813

would like to know how a tubless tyre goes down slower than one with tube????? Puncture is a puncture right


Lee is correct, puncture a tube and generaly speaking it's down like a two bob whore, puncture a tubeless tyre and the thickness of the rubber tends to seal the hole and it holds the preasure loss down to a slow leak especialy if the nail or whatever stays in the tyre. HOWEVER, if you just clip a kerb (or something on the road) and break the tyre seal the tubeless will go down like the afore mentioned tube where as the tube stands a good chance of staying up, I did this once with a tubed tyre and actualy cut through the side wall of the tyre, stayed up for about 3 days till I could get it fixed.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#917819
Hi

A 155R 15 is the excepted replacement for the 5.60 x 15 crossply that came fitted on Beetles VWs in the day, Type 3s and later bugs could run 6. x 15 when they went to 4.5 inch rims.

A 155R15 is 637.54 mm and a 145R15 is 617.22 mm, so about 20 mm difference, just as long as your aware of ramifications and are able to change tyres in the event of a big one.

donn, what happens when you have a tube in tubeless tyre? Does it go down quick or slow?

Steve

donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#917824
I understand that all tyres are tubeless these days, but that dosn't mean you can't use a tube in them, i have heard that sometimes a damaged or old rim won't seal for a tubeless so they just use a tube, at present I have two front tyres on the Caddy that have tubes in them as I got a puncture in one and the fella at the tyre shop in Adelaide said that he couldn't use one of those tyre repair thingies as they are illegal 🤪 so he offered me the choice of an internal patch (which seemed a bit dicy to me ) or a tube, I decided on doing BOTH tyres so that they are both the same, if it wasn't for the fact that the tyres were almost new I would have been better off replacing the tyres for what it ended up costing me. 😬
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snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#917833
matberry wrote:Yep, got my 135's from Brook at Capalaba
Nice stance Matberry..So you're running 135s and 215s?..Are they both on 5 or 5.5" Empi rims?..Just wondering what sizes to run on my wife 70 beetle with 15X5 Sprintstars..🤪

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#917840
1303Steve wrote:Hi

A 155R 15 is the excepted replacement for the 5.60 x 15 crossply that came fitted on Beetles VWs in the day, Type 3s and later bugs could run 6. x 15 when they went to 4.5 inch rims.

A 155R15 is 637.54 mm and a 145R15 is 617.22 mm, so about 20 mm difference, just as long as your aware of ramifications and are able to change tyres in the event of a big one.
The modern day equivelent to the 6.00 x 15 is 165/80R15 which work out to 644.90m and the 1303 GSR/sportbug were 175/70 at 625.88mm so the tyre sizes really were all over the shop

No wonder engineers have a coronary trying to work it out.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#917868
snitz wrote:Nice stance Matberry..So you're running 135s and 215s?..Are they both on 5 or 5.5" Empi rims?..Just wondering what sizes to run on my wife 70 beetle with 15X5 Sprintstars..🤪
Thanks Snitz. I'm running 135's and 225/60 both on 5" Radars from CIP1. The rear is stock early axles with type 3 drum brakes to get the wheel/tyre combo to sit right and improve braking, the front is now a 2" narrowed beam with 2 Avis style adjusters and 3" dropped spindles that convert to a disc stub.

For your later car, you'd need to fit short axles and larger brakes in the rear and a narrowed beam with dropped spindles and adjusters in the front to get everything under the guards.In the rear a smaller tyre would get under the guard.
I was in the position where I had the tyres already and I like the big-little look and I also believe it's very important to keep the tyre diameter tall for stock (or taller depending on engine) gearing.
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#917900
donn wrote:I understand that all tyres are tubeless these days, but that dosn't mean you can't use a tube in them, i have heard that sometimes a damaged or old rim won't seal for a tubeless so they just use a tube, at present I have two front tyres on the Caddy that have tubes in them as I got a puncture in one and the fella at the tyre shop in Adelaide said that he couldn't use one of those tyre repair thingies as they are illegal 🤪 so he offered me the choice of an internal patch (which seemed a bit dicy to me ) or a tube, I decided on doing BOTH tyres so that they are both the same, if it wasn't for the fact that the tyres were almost new I would have been better off replacing the tyres for what it ended up costing me. 😬
Hi
Some new cars come without a spare now and You get a repair kit.. some of the kits I have seen have the piece of rubber that is pushed thru the hole.. with the tool to do it.. by hand... and some Fini-leak..
I remember years ago having a sidewall repair with one of those pieces of rubber sticking out the sidewall...

Tubes aren't illegal, but they can go off very fast with a puncture... I prefer tubeless..
but there could be many tubed tyres running around on 2 or 3 piece wheels... although a bit of silastic would fix those..

I believe all car tyres have tubeless stamped on them...
and that is to tell You that You can fit them without tubes...

many other types of vehicles still run tubes...

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#917902
Hi Matt
car looks great.. but a couple of years ago when I went to get My car passed for rego
[You know that NSW money making thing] My car wouldn't pass as I had adjusted My rear brakes up and it kept getting under 70% on the front wheels
because My rears were working so well... lol

If I had type 3 rears I may never get passed... lol

LEE



- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

snitz Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#917907
Cheers Matberry..I am running 5" all round. Looking to run 205s on the rear and 145s on the front with 2" narrowed beam,adjusters and CB Performance spindles.Atleast your pic shows me how the tyres sit on the 5" rims..Thanks.

bugboymatt Custom Title Time!

1,405 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#917921
Some handy info in here, thanks.

Great looking ride. Matt.
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#917935
A reducion in braking and handling all for the apearance, all illegal, a cop pulled over Nick from outrage trimming and he got 15 defects including the front tyres being to small in relationship to the rear tyres, appearance over safety is the way to go.