tar76 Custom Title Time!
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62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
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tar76 Custom Title Time!
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grinderman Officially Full-On Dubber
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waveman1500 Also rides a Honda
1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
waveman1500 Also rides a Honda
1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·
The Astra Coupe OPC is a very impressive car. It would have made no sense whatsoever to sell the Astra as a Holden alongside the Cruze though. What they should do is put the 206kW engine from the OPC Astra into the Cruze to give it a legitimate high-performance hero model. The SRi-V is a complete joke, with 103kW and about 1400kg of mass to lug around it is not a performance car. The 1.4 turbo engine is an economy engine, not a performance engine. With finger-light electric power steering they're not much fun to drive either in my opinion. Holden does sell lots of them though, because they have the sporty looks and luxury features that everyone wants. Anyone who wants a genuinely fast Holden has to go to the Commodore range. Even a base Omega would leave a Cruze SRi-V in it's dust. In fact even an Omega taxi on LPG with 500,000km on it would leave a Cruze SRi-V in it's dust!grinderman wrote:They do make some interesting gti style performance models but it would have been easier (and cheaper) to sell as a rebadged holden.
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
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waveman1500 wrote:Opel is definitely aiming for VW's market in Australia, and pitching themselves as a "premium German" brand. Having said that, there are ads in the paper today offering the Astra for $24,990 driveaway with 1.4 litre turbo engine, 16" alloy wheels and even metallic paint included, which is very close to the price of the equivalent Cruze SRi, if not perhaps even undercutting it. In fact, I just looked it up and the Cruze SRi is actually $2000 more at $26,990 driveaway, with only 17" alloys in it's favour. And personally, I think the Cruze 17" alloys are quite ugly.
Whether we need two competing GM small cars in the same size range, built on the same platform, with the same engines/transmissions is an excellent question. When I was at Holden last year I got the impression that Holden management was not happy with Opel launching in Australia, but the orders had come from higher up in GM.
Really, given that the cars are basically so similar, I would hope that people could support Australian jobs and buy the locally-made product. Every Holden dealer should be putting giant "Made in Australia" signs on every Cruze to emphasize the fact.
MISS VDUB Administrator Mrs KOMBIBOB
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or a Skoda! 😍tar76 wrote:Just saw the new Astra/Opel tv add. Seem to be jumping on the VW golf train with the German thing! All i can say is go the Golf!
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waveman1500 Also rides a Honda
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This isn't true, I have seen the base model Cruze CD going down the Elizabeth production line with my own eyes. All the Cruzes sold here are built in Elizabeth. Panels are pressed and welded here, large plastic parts are moulded here (bumpers and side skirts), major interior parts (seats, dash, carpet and headliner) are made in South Australia, but most of the rest is imported (drivetrain, electrical, wheels).vlad01 wrote:only the higher model cruize in made here, the lower specs are opel rebadges.
DubCrazy Custom Title Time!
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waveman1500 Also rides a Honda
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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
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are you sure? people involved in holden tell me otherwise.waveman1500 wrote:This isn't true, I have seen the base model Cruze CD going down the Elizabeth production line with my own eyes. All the Cruzes sold here are built in Elizabeth. Panels are pressed and welded here, large plastic parts are moulded here (bumpers and side skirts), major interior parts (seats, dash, carpet and headliner) are made in South Australia, but most of the rest is imported (drivetrain, electrical, wheels).vlad01 wrote:only the higher model cruize in made here, the lower specs are opel rebadges.
vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·
very true.DubCrazy wrote:the main reason for the Opel badge and not holden is that the holden small cars have taken a beating since they started production in the old Deawoo plant.. Quality has fallen down from the german built models and sales have been affected
It all comes down the the Aussie public, holden did a survey asking if people would buy the same car one built in germany or one built in korea with there being a price drop or equipment upgrade and they result was quite high on the korean model, all people could see for the most part was cheap or free extras..
A very large amount of holden parts are all made at the korean plant now, panels and such. the quality isn't as good as it once was and all in all it has hurt holden and in turn gmc so they decided to relaunch opel here with that in mind and the desire of people to own a german built car..
truth be known most new cars are going down hill as the companys try to save money and the public demand more and more for standard trim.. yes some are better than others
steff...
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